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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8th

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1947.

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disk has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army if the

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game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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bespoke radio

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for the

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masses uh yeah man how you doing how you

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california and i would like to welcome

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everybody listening

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all around the world all across the

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united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far

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and near this is fade to black for kjcr

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the game changer network and kgra the

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planets

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i'm yours jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody

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how you doing 142 days into the new year

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224 days left

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that's right we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbay california for kjcr

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the game changer network and kgra the

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planet i'm your host jimmy church

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my notes dropped from the screen so that

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yeah you gotta like it tonight we

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welcome very special guest

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linda moulton howe is here she's here to

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present her coronavirus covet 19

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research

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and this is our attempt to get shut down

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media platforms out there let's see how

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far they want to censure

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that's right that's what we're going to

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do tonight i cannot wait for this

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and and linda not only is she the best

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forward to her coming on the show this

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is an important show tonight

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linda moulton howe she is here to

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present her latest research

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into the corona virus and kovid 19 its

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origins its impact

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and our future linda is a graduate of

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stanford university with a master's

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degree in communication

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she has devoted her documentary film

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uh career writing and reporting to

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productions

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concerning science medicine and the

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environment ms howe has received

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three regional emmys a national emmy

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nomination

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and a station peabody award linda

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she has appeared on ancient aliens since

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her call just dropped and we're bringing

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her back now

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uh she has visited and traveled to

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in addition to oliver traveling and

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research every wednesday evening linda

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is live on youtube hanging out with our

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earth files audience i would like to

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welcome back to fade to black

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linda molten howe linda good evening how

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hey jimmy it's good to be with you

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and to wish everybody in fade to black

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and the earth files world

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the most positive safety from

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covid it's like we're in a completely

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different planet now isn't it

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yes we are and and for there's so many

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in and around uh what uh coronavirus

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covet 19. and one of the side things

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podcasts removed voices removed doctors

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of criticism to them for

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from them that's what everybody

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hopes that's what i think that we always

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what once upon a time this

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such an evolution and a change

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in that and that now the large

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functioning for you or me they're

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profit structures and so whatever comes

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i'm not going to single this person out

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in public facebook and google

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have more power than most world

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how do we know what the truth is

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issues that came with covid was were we

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there were all kinds of undocumented

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no vetting all kinds of conspiracy

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nobody knew what's true what isn't true

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who is behind it what is happening and

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editorial decisions that were made

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of may 20th it's bloomberg news

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signs the virus could be changing this

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url and i'm reading it and realizing

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all you read all these pages and it is

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that in northeast china covid

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then symptoms and then a long time

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a coronavirus that has even more

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it's all been sort of chopped up in the

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swirl that you are addressing

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how do we know what is the truth on

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uh combine all of that which

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as important as it is and then

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and certainly with the mass media in

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that if you go against the who

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we are going to block your information

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which is saying that we are being forced

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a single point of view and no other

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theories or opinions matter that's the

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exact opposite of what

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freedoms we have fought for right

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though when i think back because i was

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doing a lot of news coverage

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and interviewing virologists and all

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kinds of medical people

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then were going back to 2002 to 2003

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with stars

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and that's a very important comparison

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kovid is tsar's cov2 it

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is closest to that coronavirus that came

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what is that now 18 years ago

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and they didn't come up with a vaccine

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sars and they didn't come up with a

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vaccine for the next coronavirus mers

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and now we are seeing headlines

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like for example the one that sent the

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stock market

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rising i think it was on monday was

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announcement that they're now going to

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with development they think it will be

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in months

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it will be astounding if this happens

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basing what is called an m

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little m like in mary rna like we're

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we have rna and dna in our genetic

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right and they are coming at this with

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this brand new

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approach and the mrna technology

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delivers bits of the

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corona viruses genes into human cells

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literally and the goal is for the cells

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to begin making a viral protein

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that then the human immune system would

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recognize

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as foreign and then the body would build

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defenses against that protein and

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then we would be in a world where if all

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of that worked

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like that we would have a vaccine

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maybe it would last for a year we might

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have to get a vaccine

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every year that none of that is known

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the thing about the mrna

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is that it can be made more

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simply it can be produced in a larger

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capacity and we're talking about

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7.6 billion people

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in this planet and we're talking about

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a coronavirus that every professional

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i've talked to has said the same thing

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we cannot

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underestimate this coronavirus it keeps

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doing things that we don't expect

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and we don't understand and so

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if we if let's say that moderna there's

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going to be a hundred i think there's a

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hundred

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uh different groups that are now trying

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to work on a vaccine

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that's fantastic because this

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coronavirus is

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really truly dangerous and it's

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dangerous

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from babies and infants

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to grade school to teenage

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20s 30s all the way this is

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not what they first said oh it's only

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people over 55 who have to be concerned

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and the new what they're

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the inflammatory syndrome that they're

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comparing to kawasaki

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that only showed up in look

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say significant cases in the united

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states

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and in england just about four to six

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weeks

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ago so this uh coronavirus

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who knows how many more facets it has

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and one of the probably the most ominous

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things

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to keep in front of your mind is that

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this fall if it reproduces what happened

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in the 1918 pandemic 100 years ago

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the fall will be worse than what we've

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gone through

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and if when you then put all of this out

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on a table

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and we're dealing with a coronavirus

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in which right now there's almost a

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desperation

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to come up with a vaccine here is the

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reality

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that you get a vaccine but you've got to

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be

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able to make a billion doses

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at a time how long would it take

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to get a billion doses of a vaccine

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if it takes six months to a year how

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long does it take to manufacture

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and we're in so many unknowns

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up against the next let's say six months

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12 months

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24 months some people say 36

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that's one two and three years

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what uh uh what

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what do we do uh we have so much to talk

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about

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uh tonight linda and we're gonna explore

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so many different

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aspects of this but one of the things

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that is out front

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uh with this is

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uh we still have to go back to work

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right we can't put the entire planet on

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pause

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for three years or there's going to be

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nobody left

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do we just continue on with our lives

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yeah

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we we are beginning to open up but this

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is the one thing that at least

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i think that most decent human beings

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that they want to help protect you

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me them parents children

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everybody has a universe around them

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that they want

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to be healthy and safe and the one

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area that is been proven now over and

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over

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if you will wear a mask the whole time

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you are out whether you're just going to

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the store

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you never go without a mask on and

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having sunglasses even helps protect the

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eyes the eyes are clearly

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one of the roots for the coronavirus

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entering the human body

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it isn't just cough and breathing in its

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eyes

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and the touching into the mouth

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and therefore for example

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uh i got rubber gloves early on

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masks because i've done so much medical

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production in my life

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i saw this really clearly as being

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something

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i i just felt this at the end of

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february

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this is going to be terrible and

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i have been wearing yellow or rubber

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rubber gloves a good mask

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and glasses and a hat and a raincoat

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it can be the flimsiest plastic but the

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whole idea

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is whenever you go to the store or go to

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the bank or whatever you're doing or

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going to

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lot of people i know they're now

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staying and doing everything in their

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home office

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that you think about in a strange

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sort of way that you every time you go

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out

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you're kind of like a soldier that

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you've got to

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protect yourself in order to protect the

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people that you love

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and to protect the people around you and

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that means

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accepting for at least the next uh six

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months

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masks and hats and glasses

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and gloves and putting some kind of

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plastic around your clothes that's the

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whole idea and when i come home

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i put everything on for the the hat

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the glasses the mask the gloves

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my shoes and the raincoat i put

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all of it on a table that then they bake

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in the sun

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until i need to go out again and it is a

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new way of thinking but

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if we all did that if we all did that

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with everything that we were doing and

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knowing that that mask

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is important not just for helping keep

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from breathing

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in some particles even though the

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coronavirus is one

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twenty thousandth of a millimeter it is

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at the electron microscope range and

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that means

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unless you have an n95 respirator type

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mask

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you're really not filtering out those

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little particles until you get to

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the very sophisticated masks but you are

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what you are doing is you are filtering

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out

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the moisture molecules in the air that

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covid ride on and that's where

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the the universities that have been

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showing those

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laser cough uh exercises to show that if

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you cough

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uh at x amount of pressure it'll go out

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uh in two seconds it goes out three feet

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and then

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they go out uh by 20 seconds it's out at

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six

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and a half feet or something like that

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the masks

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help cut down that explosion

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or those moisture particles that covet

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is writing on

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so even if filtering out all of the

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particles

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uh you are for you are doing two things

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you're keeping

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yourself from breathing in the larger

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atmosphere moisture particles and you

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are protecting

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the people around you everywhere you go

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from your

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own breathing out if you were

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contaminated by covid and you didn't

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know it which

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is one of the most insidious

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parts of this whole pandemic we are

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dealing with a coronavirus

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that can be inside of people from

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for some people think it's been four to

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six weeks no symptoms

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and during those four to six weeks that

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person is spreading

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the coronavirus and if every one

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of the people who are asymptomatic had

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on masks

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it probably could cut down the exposure

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and

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think there was a percentage

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today on one of the news shows where

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they're trying to estimate

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if everybody were wearing masks how much

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percentage of disease could be

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potentially cut down

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and i think this is so important from

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just a straightforward

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practical compassion from my fellow

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humans

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and then knowing that you want to

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protect yourself

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wearing masks it should be it should be

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just

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as straightforward and

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understood how important it is as as

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drinking

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water every day we need to be wearing

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masks

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now what do we do uh with

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those out there that are going to say

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linda

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um i the mass

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the covering of the clothes none of this

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matters to me what matters to me

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is i've got to feed my family i've got

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to get out there

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and if uh if i get infected uh

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or if anything happens that's on me

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but i've got to take care of my family

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and enough is enough

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whatever's going to happen is going to

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happen yeah taking care of your family

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and going to work

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does not exclude uh the importance in

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fact it

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increases the importance of having a hat

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and glasses and masks and gloves

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because you want to survive you don't

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want to get this

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darn thing and so uh

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if going to work if you have to

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physically go to work

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and you wear gloves and you wear a mask

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and you wear glasses and a hat how does

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that interfere

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with your going to work it's a

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it's an interesting view of the future

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you know and and how long

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how long do we have to maintain that

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kind of a paradigm shift where

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this is something that we have to

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consider

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till we have a vaccine if we get

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a vaccine that will stop this

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corota virus in its tracks

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and then we can get the vaccine out to

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the whole

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world then we

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humans we have controlled

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the insidious covet 19. until

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we have a vaccine there will be no

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guarantee

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that there will not be waves after waves

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after waves of this

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and see it is so unknown yet

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we it's almost like we have to get to

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october

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december

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because we've never no no human

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on planet earth in the 20th to the 21st

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century

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has experienced having influenza virus

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circulating in the same air with

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something as insidious

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and potentially lethal as covid19 and

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they will

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both be in the air around this planet

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as we go forward and when we get to the

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october to november december january

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dates

585
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in the united states that's classic flu

586
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:12,480
season

587
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:15,520
so we're going to have flu mixed

588
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:18,720
with covet and that's coming now

589
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i did an interview with professor jay

590
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:22,159
coy

591
00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:26,159
who is a cellular neurobiologist at the

592
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:27,760
university of pittsburgh

593
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:30,240
in pennsylvania i've done two interviews

594
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:31,039
with him

595
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:34,400
he's extremely refreshing to talk to

596
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:38,240
no politics it's all straight facts

597
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:40,960
and he said something interesting he

598
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said

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there is a possibility no one knows they

600
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:45,919
all stress

601
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:48,880
no one knows all they can do is think

602
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:50,720
and hypothesize

603
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:53,840
there is a possibility that the

604
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:54,880
circulation

605
00:26:01,990 --> 00:25:58,000
of the influenza virus and the

606
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:02,000
coronavirus together depending upon

607
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:04,080
what humans are doing to protect

608
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:05,600
themselves

609
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:09,039
it might be that the coronavirus

610
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:12,320
is not as active and aggressive

611
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:15,840
as it has been in the first wave but we

612
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:19,440
don't know there's nobody who knows

613
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:22,080
what is going to happen and the very

614
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:23,120
fact

615
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:26,640
that china's this headline china's new

616
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:29,760
outbreak shows signs the virus could be

617
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:32,880
changing and this is in northeastern

618
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:34,480
it's not in wuhan this is in

619
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:36,000
northeastern china

620
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:39,919
it's in three city areas uh shullan

621
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:43,039
jalen and shenyang and there are a

622
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:44,000
hundred

623
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:47,279
million people that have been put

624
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:50,400
back this is a renewed

625
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:53,120
lock down in just the last few days

626
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:54,559
there

627
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:57,600
so now we've that that to me is holding

628
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:58,960
up

629
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,880
that we have to be prepared

630
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:02,640
psychologically

631
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:05,520
that over the next year we may have to

632
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:06,080
go into

633
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:09,520
lockdown again but not to throw in the

634
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:10,080
towel

635
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,600
or get depressed but to uh

636
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,080
to think about this that we are fellow

637
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:18,240
human beings who are trying to save each

638
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:20,080
other and the people that we love and

639
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:20,480
that

640
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:23,919
when and if the current

641
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,440
opening up we start seeing these flares

642
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,520
like what china is dealing with right

643
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:30,880
now

644
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:34,640
we double up putting that alcohol or

645
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:35,840
whatever you're using

646
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,960
on our hands constantly and and wearing

647
00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:41,039
the mask and the glasses and not looking

648
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:41,840
at it as an

649
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:44,880
imposition but being grateful that we

650
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:45,600
have some

651
00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:48,960
tools that do work and that do

652
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:52,159
help protect while we're waiting out the

653
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:54,320
science to get us to a vaccine

654
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:57,440
that's the way i look at it when we come

655
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:58,960
back we're going to take a break right

656
00:28:02,149 --> 00:27:59,679
here

657
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:02,159
but one of the things and i want to

658
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:02,960
really uh

659
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:05,440
go deep on this when we come back one of

660
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:06,559
the things that

661
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:09,440
that is so fascinating about coronavirus

662
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:10,880
and again i'm not a doctor

663
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:14,480
and i can only read the various reports

664
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:16,080
that are going on out there that are all

665
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:17,760
different and you just kind of

666
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:19,120
meet somewhere in the middle with

667
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:20,880
everything and and hopefully you've

668
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:21,919
learned something

669
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:25,039
but what the feeling that i get linda

670
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:27,679
is although there doesn't appear to be a

671
00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:30,480
brain or central nervous system

672
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:32,960
this thing is built to survive and to

673
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:33,679
adapt

674
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,640
and apparently to do some thinking to

675
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:38,399
stay ahead of the game

676
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:41,679
and when i get my mind into thinking

677
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:42,799
that way

678
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:50,950
corona viruses and pandemics

679
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,159
or coronaviruses and viruses

680
00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:57,120
they have been around ever since there

681
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,000
was literature

682
00:29:01,029 --> 00:29:00,399
five thousand years ago three thousand

683
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:01,039
years ago

684
00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:08,720
the plague is a pandemic

685
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:11,840
the plague a microbe that has the

686
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:12,720
ability

687
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:16,399
to get into a human body and then

688
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:19,520
spread rapidly into a lot of other human

689
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:20,480
bodies

690
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:24,399
that have absolutely no immunity

691
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:27,919
to that new microbe that is a plague

692
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:31,440
and the plague definition it takes

693
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,559
out a tremendous percentage of the

694
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:36,240
population

695
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:40,720
up to let's say up to 50 to 60 percent

696
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:44,559
and then that plague microbe

697
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:48,320
has defeated itself this has been going

698
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:50,240
on for centuries

699
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,760
once it can't it no when once you start

700
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:55,679
getting a population

701
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,039
that develops immunity and antibodies

702
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:01,039
that is the we'll call it the

703
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:02,640
self-destruction or the

704
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:06,559
end of the of the microbe

705
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:09,840
and in this instance this one

706
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:14,320
has seemed to be so strangely

707
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:17,760
uh insidious to the point

708
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:21,200
that its entry into the human body has

709
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:22,399
been through

710
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:25,919
the a is a c e

711
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:28,640
those are letters that stand for long

712
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:30,159
complicated words

713
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:33,360
too and the simple thing is in

714
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,480
the body we have receptors

715
00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:38,799
that relate to metabolism and blood

716
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:41,120
pressure and things in the body

717
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:44,640
and the one thing that this covid

718
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:48,720
has the ability to do is to take those

719
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:51,760
long spikes they're made of protein and

720
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:52,960
at the end of those

721
00:30:57,750 --> 00:30:56,159
spikes that you see on the coronavirus

722
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:57,760
illustrations and the electron

723
00:31:02,630 --> 00:30:59,200
microscope

724
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:02,640
at the end there is a sugar molecule at

725
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:04,000
the end of each of those

726
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:08,399
protein spikes and each of those

727
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:11,279
protein sugars are different and they

728
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:12,240
kind of shake

729
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:15,919
and jiggle and that sets up

730
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:19,519
two interesting things the covid

731
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:22,799
is made in some way the rna

732
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:26,240
programming of the covid aims for

733
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:30,799
that ac2 receptor normally

734
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:35,120
the body the human body would be

735
00:31:38,470 --> 00:31:37,200
telling there would be our programming

736
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:38,480
would be saying

737
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:41,440
uh to the makers of the antibodies you

738
00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:42,640
have to make

739
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:44,720
something that looks like that's that

740
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:46,960
thing there that enemy

741
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:50,080
and you have to then be able to surround

742
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:50,399
it

743
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:54,640
help us stay healthy

744
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:57,840
well when it comes to covid

745
00:32:01,509 --> 00:32:00,320
it has those spikes it has those

746
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:01,519
jiggling

747
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:04,880
sugar molecules and what they have found

748
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:08,159
with the electron microscope images

749
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:11,440
that the deer human antibodies trying to

750
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:13,279
figure out what this thing is

751
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:16,399
so that they can kill it the antibodies

752
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:17,279
come up to

753
00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:21,039
the spiked covid and they get stuck

754
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:23,600
they get stuck right in those protein

755
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:24,240
spikes

756
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:26,480
well let's take linda i gotta jump in

757
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:28,720
and and take a break right here so we'll

758
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:30,159
all right when we come back i'll tell

759
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:32,000
you what happened exactly

760
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:35,039
our guest tonight linda molten how

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00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,519
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764
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:43,120
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766
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:47,360
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767
00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:50,080
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768
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:51,679
latest stuff is being presented right

769
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:53,200
here on fade to black i want you to stay

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00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:54,720
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786
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:43,919
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787
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790
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right there okay now right the

791
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:53,519
right before the uh the break right uh i

792
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:54,799
brought up

793
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:57,360
this this coronavirus seems to be

794
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,679
intelligent it doesn't have a brain

795
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:01,760
but it's staying out in front of our

796
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:03,120
best efforts to

797
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,519
get in front of it it knows how to dodge

798
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,799
a bullet

799
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:09,119
and you you brought up uh you know the

800
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:10,879
protein spikes with the

801
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:13,839
with the different sugars on the end

802
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:14,240
where

803
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:17,839
it is figuring out a way to to survive

804
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:18,560
and best

805
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:21,040
uh attach itself to us in in various

806
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:22,480
parts of our bodies

807
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:25,359
how does this happen it appears to be uh

808
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:26,320
remember it's

809
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:29,440
rna and it's coded and those protein

810
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:33,119
spines surround all of that rna code is

811
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:34,399
in the sphere

812
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,560
and these protein spikes come out with

813
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:38,480
the sugars on the end

814
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:41,839
and our antibodies what they

815
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:45,119
are expected to do is look at

816
00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:48,800
shapes if we understood what's going on

817
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:51,679
in our bodies all of the time our

818
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:53,520
antibodies are looking for

819
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:56,639
anything that is so-called an enemy

820
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:58,720
and they look for shapes and when they

821
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:01,520
see a shape they try to mirror the shape

822
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:04,960
so that the antibody can come absorb

823
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,000
what is the enemy and destroy it

824
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:10,800
well now we've got this covered

825
00:35:15,109 --> 00:35:12,320
coronavirus

826
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:15,119
and you've got the antibodies that are

827
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:16,000
getting up around

828
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,359
it and they are getting stuck

829
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:21,599
and they have seen on the electron

830
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:23,760
microscope that there can be so many

831
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:27,520
human antibodies stuck in and hooked on

832
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:31,280
to these inside of these spikes clogs up

833
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:32,560
the spines

834
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:34,960
and then it ends up confusing the

835
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:36,720
antibody process

836
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:39,920
of what shape are they supposed to be

837
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:43,040
identifying and mirroring as

838
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:46,640
an enemy it's a very very complex

839
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:49,520
process at this point and it can spin

840
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:51,040
out of control

841
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:54,400
because the antibodies in

842
00:36:02,790 --> 00:35:58,800
our human body can get confused

843
00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:02,800
about all of these clogged spines

844
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:06,079
on covid and what are the spines clogged

845
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:06,800
with

846
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:11,440
ironic situation

847
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:14,000
where our own antibodies will start

848
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:15,119
attacking

849
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:17,680
our own antibodies because of this

850
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:18,800
confusion

851
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:22,000
around what is this enemy of the

852
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:25,119
covet and this may be

853
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:28,240
what is behind what is now

854
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:31,760
of great concern of uh babies

855
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:35,280
children and teenagers this is

856
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:38,160
a brand new thing that's evolved in uh

857
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:38,560
for

858
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:41,760
reports like the last six to eight weeks

859
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:45,119
and one of the dramatic uh

860
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,960
stories about this was in the new york

861
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:48,320
times on monday

862
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:51,760
and it was under a headline straight up

863
00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:55,280
fire in his veins teen battles

864
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:57,920
this new syndrome that's been compared

865
00:37:02,069 --> 00:36:59,440
to kawasaki

866
00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:02,079
and the dramatic photographs that show

867
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:03,920
the bright red tongues and

868
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:06,720
the red eyes and the red fingers and the

869
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,000
red toes and

870
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:10,560
inflammation all over the bodies of

871
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:11,680
these children

872
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:14,880
it's been even in newborns

873
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:19,920
and in this guy jack he's from queens

874
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:23,040
and here is a quote his resting heart

875
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:23,520
rate

876
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:26,880
was 165 beats a minute

877
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:29,680
twice as high as normal as his heart

878
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,359
struggled to compensate for his

879
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:33,599
alarmingly low blood pressure

880
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:35,440
which was hampering its ability to

881
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:36,800
circulate blood

882
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:40,079
and supply his vital organs with oxygen

883
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,000
this condition is a form of heart

884
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:44,560
failure called cardiogenic shock

885
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:47,760
and jax was severe the doctor

886
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:50,000
stephen kearney chief of pediatric

887
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:52,000
critical care medicine at the hospital

888
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:53,920
in columbia university said

889
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:56,960
overall his heart was not working well

890
00:38:02,230 --> 00:37:59,839
it wasn't pumping as strongly as normal

891
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:02,240
the doctors could not explain

892
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:05,680
why this 14 year old otherwise strong

893
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,400
guy

894
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:08,640
his heart function has suddenly become

895
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:09,760
impaired

896
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:12,640
its structure and rhythm were normal but

897
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:15,599
the blood vessels and this is the key

898
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:18,800
the blood vessels throughout his entire

899
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:20,960
body were inflamed

900
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:24,079
it is a condition called vasculitis the

901
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:26,560
and what happens is that the muscles

902
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:28,320
around the vessels

903
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:31,599
could not control the blood flow the

904
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:34,800
inflammation is taking over the entire

905
00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:37,520
arterial and venous system

906
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:41,119
and after about 10 days

907
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:44,320
of this they were able

908
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:47,760
with a whole series of things trying

909
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:51,040
to deal with if you can think about this

910
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:51,920
jimmy

911
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:55,200
that your whole arterial venous system

912
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:57,839
would be inflamed and that was the

913
00:39:01,589 --> 00:38:58,720
headline

914
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:01,599
the 14 year old said it felt like he had

915
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:02,160
quote

916
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:05,599
straight up fire in his veins now this

917
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:10,400
is part of the whole

918
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:13,520
issue that i'm talking about that what

919
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,000
is the

920
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,800
shape of the coronavirus that the

921
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:18,079
antibodies

922
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:20,960
in our human bodies have to deal with

923
00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:23,760
and this particular covid19

924
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,839
with all of those protein spikes and

925
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:27,599
this strange little sugar

926
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:29,599
molecules at the end that shake and the

927
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:30,960
antibodies can't get a

928
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:34,079
clear uh picture a clear shape of what

929
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:35,520
they're dealing with

930
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:39,920
and it can turn into this kind of attack

931
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:42,960
of our bodies within themselves

932
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:46,079
and that may be what this syndrome

933
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:48,160
that they've been comparing to kawasaki

934
00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:49,280
might be

935
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:53,520
but it's coveted it's covered

936
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:56,560
causing the antibodies to attack the

937
00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:58,160
antibodies

938
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:01,920
uh how long uh will it take

939
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:05,760
for us to not not to build up immunities

940
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:09,680
but just to learn how to fight back

941
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,400
well i think it is happening uh the

942
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:14,800
interviews of the doctors that they have

943
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:15,680
had

944
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:18,720
who were in the trenches

945
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,680
uh six eight weeks ago the horror of it

946
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:22,880
in new york

947
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,520
and the nurses that were on and the

948
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:27,119
doctors that were on and they were

949
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:27,839
basically

950
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:30,240
saying we've never seen anything like

951
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:31,280
this

952
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:33,200
we don't know what to do at first they

953
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,040
thought remember that they needed all

954
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:36,960
the ventilators and then

955
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:39,839
they found that the ventilators did not

956
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:40,720
do

957
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:44,160
did not help as much and there is one

958
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:47,680
particular a piece of evidence that was

959
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:50,480
found at an mri that i've always thought

960
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:51,440
might be

961
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:54,480
an insight about why they switched in

962
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:56,640
some people from ventilators to just

963
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:57,839
putting

964
00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:00,800
high amounts of pure oxygen through

965
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,599
tubes

966
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,359
and they found that worked and turning

967
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:05,119
people onto their stomach

968
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,640
that helped more than being on the

969
00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:08,480
ventilators

970
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:10,960
they did there was a woman she worked in

971
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:13,040
an airline this goes back about two and

972
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,560
a half months ago

973
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:17,599
and at work she collapsed she didn't

974
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:18,000
know

975
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:21,440
anything her mind was completely gone

976
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:23,200
except she could tell them her first

977
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:25,280
name and

978
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:28,480
when they did an mri they found

979
00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:31,440
that there were swellings and dark

980
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:32,720
places

981
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:35,839
from the area

982
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:37,920
that goes up the nose through the

983
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:39,520
sinuses

984
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:43,359
where you have a tissue in the brain

985
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:46,480
that has to do with your sense of smell

986
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,319
and they have found that there's

987
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:50,640
inflammation there that covid can go

988
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:51,040
right

989
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:55,599
part of the brain that infects

990
00:42:02,470 --> 00:41:59,359
your ability to smell and above that

991
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:02,480
is the medulla and the ponds these are

992
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:04,640
two areas of the brain

993
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,119
and what is one of their most important

994
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:08,880
functions

995
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:12,400
the control of signals to the muscles

996
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:15,440
that make the ribcage of bodies go

997
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:20,160
in and out and why do they go in and out

998
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:21,599
it's so that the

999
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:24,960
lungs will be expanded and contracted

1000
00:42:28,829 --> 00:42:25,440
which

1001
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:28,839
allows us to breathe and live

1002
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:31,920
suddenly seeing the mri with the

1003
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,720
swelling

1004
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,480
and the damage there was literal

1005
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:36,640
physical damage to the brain tissue in

1006
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:38,800
the medulla and the pons

1007
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,760
it might explain that there is brain

1008
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:43,599
damage that is causing an

1009
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:47,040
interference with the muscles and that

1010
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:50,160
that's why a ventilator might work with

1011
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:51,920
some people and might not with

1012
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:54,560
others because there's literal brain

1013
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:55,599
damage

1014
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:58,640
of of interfering with the signals

1015
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:01,280
that every human needs to breathe

1016
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:02,640
naturally

1017
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:05,520
so those are the kinds of pieces on the

1018
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:08,000
chess board that we're beginning to see

1019
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:11,520
that the covet is going into the brain

1020
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:14,000
it's going into organs it isn't just

1021
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:15,440
going into lungs

1022
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:18,000
it is a whole body system and now we

1023
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:18,560
have

1024
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:21,359
a case like this teenager where it went

1025
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:22,480
throughout the

1026
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:25,119
entire circulatory blood system and

1027
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:27,040
causing terrible

1028
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:31,119
inflammation and that means this thing

1029
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:34,640
has coating in the rna that

1030
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:38,480
allows it to come up to the ac2

1031
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:41,520
receptors with those spikes

1032
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:44,480
and that sugar molecule and that it has

1033
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:45,440
a very

1034
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:48,079
uh and some of the the medical people

1035
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:48,720
would say

1036
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:52,800
it is a very unique uh and special

1037
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:56,160
ability to use the ac2 receptor in the

1038
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:57,359
human body

1039
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:00,960
to get into cells is that a natural

1040
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:02,319
evolution

1041
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:06,240
could it have happened from the

1042
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,520
horseshoe bats and their interaction

1043
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:10,960
with pangolins

1044
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:13,520
there are papers that are saying that

1045
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:14,160
the

1046
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,720
uh like something was made in a lab and

1047
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:30,720
maybe got loose

1048
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,000
and other people will argue no it's it's

1049
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:37,280
too adapted to that ac2 receptor

1050
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,760
and that's one of the arguments that may

1051
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:42,000
go on to the end of time

1052
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,800
and to me we have to deal with this and

1053
00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:47,040
we have to know we're on a planet where

1054
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:48,079
these kinds of

1055
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:52,000
plagues ancient pandemics

1056
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:55,280
now have happened will continue to

1057
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:55,760
happen

1058
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:58,400
as long as and jimmy this is the other

1059
00:45:04,470 --> 00:44:59,839
part of the world

1060
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:04,480
that needs i think to uh

1061
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:08,880
i started to say re-educate itself

1062
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:13,200
and what i'm going to is the wet markets

1063
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:16,240
all of those wet markets in china with

1064
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:19,520
all of these kinds of creatures thrown

1065
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:23,200
into piles and that people are eating

1066
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:24,079
them

1067
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:27,200
they that is what sets up the ability

1068
00:45:32,670 --> 00:45:29,760
for something like coronaviruses which

1069
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:32,680
live in the gut of the bats the

1070
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:34,640
coronaviruses are there

1071
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:37,760
that's where they are and the fact that

1072
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,560
they can come out of a bat maybe go into

1073
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:41,920
a pangolin

1074
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:44,960
that the chinese get the scales from

1075
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:48,000
and eat parts of and then jump

1076
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:52,000
into a human that's what uh the vast

1077
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:54,240
i think the vast evidence seems to

1078
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:55,119
indicate

1079
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:57,040
that's how all of this happened and this

1080
00:46:02,309 --> 00:45:58,800
is not the first time

1081
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:02,319
same thing in 1918 and and others

1082
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:05,520
but this one as you're saying it seems

1083
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:08,960
it seems so adapted it seems so

1084
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:12,319
perfectly adapted for getting into

1085
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:16,400
the human h2 receptor

1086
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:19,760
and then it seems to be able to

1087
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:22,240
uh move its way through the human body

1088
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:23,359
in the most

1089
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:26,800
insidious ways and that's when we say

1090
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:29,920
god it feels like it's plotting it feels

1091
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:31,599
like it's calculating

1092
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:36,160
but it is rna wrapped up in a circle

1093
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:38,960
that has all these protein spines on it

1094
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:41,599
and it is not a thinking creature

1095
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,720
but it is viruses there's

1096
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:47,119
i can't remember there's twenty thousand

1097
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:48,000
fifty thousand

1098
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:50,880
a hundred thousand viruses and these

1099
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:53,920
strange twilight zone things have been

1100
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:56,800
on this planet with us from apparently

1101
00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:57,200
from

1102
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:59,599
near the beginning and they have

1103
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:00,880
paralleled

1104
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:04,319
uh with the evolution of organic life

1105
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:06,720
and they are not living and this seems

1106
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:07,599
to be the

1107
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:10,960
one defining difference between

1108
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:14,319
why are viruses not considered to be

1109
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:17,760
life the definition of

1110
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:21,040
a living organism is self

1111
00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:25,440
replication the virus

1112
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:29,359
the coronavirus cannot self-replicate

1113
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:33,440
it must get inside of some sort

1114
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:36,880
of a system like dna and rna

1115
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:40,240
and then take it over to replicate

1116
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:43,680
itself why does that happen

1117
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:46,240
you have to go back far in time but

1118
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,240
that's how weird it is

1119
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:51,200
that something that's not even life can

1120
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:52,079
get inside

1121
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:55,280
of life and take it over

1122
00:48:02,390 --> 00:47:59,119
and replicate and cause

1123
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:02,400
would you say it's fair to say it took

1124
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:05,599
only four months

1125
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:08,720
to change the entire world perhaps

1126
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:09,680
forever

1127
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:12,960
yeah it uh it's going to be interesting

1128
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:14,480
how

1129
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:21,119
and the way that we go about our days

1130
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:22,880
in the future is is going to be

1131
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:24,559
different there's there's

1132
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,800
i'm living differently now and i feel

1133
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:28,559
different and i'm just like everybody

1134
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:29,280
else

1135
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,400
there's another part of this though and

1136
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,160
i want to get back to the vaccines

1137
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:36,160
too as well uh that's uh too important

1138
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:37,760
not to discuss

1139
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:42,480
but viruses have been around forever

1140
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:46,240
and surely uh man homo sapien sapien

1141
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:47,440
modern man

1142
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:50,000
has been living with them side by side

1143
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:50,800
in this planet

1144
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:53,359
and we've managed to get to where we are

1145
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:54,800
today

1146
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:58,720
with them is there a need for vaccines

1147
00:49:02,069 --> 00:49:01,680
or are we just going to be fine if we

1148
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:02,079
just

1149
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:08,720
well i'll give you a personal experience

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00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,119
of being a child that i remember this

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00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:13,839
like it happened yesterday uh when my

1152
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:14,880
brother and i

1153
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:18,559
were growing up in boise idaho polio

1154
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:21,599
was crippling children right and left

1155
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:24,880
and my mom and my dad were just

1156
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:28,079
terrified that we would get polio and

1157
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:31,119
become crippled and it was such an

1158
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:34,400
ever-present uh in in our house

1159
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:38,079
and uh when uh during the summer

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00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:41,040
uh dad would make sure that we we had to

1161
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:43,119
have naps at a certain time

1162
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:46,880
and there was a huge thing about trying

1163
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:51,200
to do anything to avoid getting polio

1164
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:54,400
and i don't know the number now of how

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00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:56,319
many children

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00:50:02,950 --> 00:49:59,680
were crippled for life but it was huge

1167
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:02,960
and then came the

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00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:06,079
salk and sabine one was oral

1169
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:09,200
and one was a shot

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00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:12,720
and one when those uh when those

1171
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:15,520
i think of like a miracle because we

1172
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:16,400
live with this

1173
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:18,559
fear that it was so palpable that we

1174
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:21,520
would get polio and be crippled forever

1175
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:24,800
that when those vaccines were announced

1176
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:28,240
it was like uh it was

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00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:32,160
i still can feel this joy of my parents

1178
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:35,440
and getting us uh to get the uh

1179
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:36,880
one of them i can't remember i think it

1180
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:38,480
was a shot first and then

1181
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:41,920
later on it was the oral

1182
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:44,960
and it was like this huge thing was

1183
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:48,559
lifted off of our lives

1184
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:51,920
that's where we are now if we

1185
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:55,200
can get a vaccine against this

1186
00:51:02,870 --> 00:50:59,040
insidious covid19

1187
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:02,880
it will be a lifting off from the world

1188
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:05,520
like it was to my brother and me

1189
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:08,720
about polio and

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00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:12,319
uh the vaccine the reason

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00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:16,800
why vaccines work is because

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00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,800
and when you've been reading about uh

1193
00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:21,119
the ones that they're in trials now and

1194
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,319
how uh

1195
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:24,640
moderna and now i think there's another

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00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,680
one well

1197
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:27,359
i think there's a hundred different

1198
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:28,960
groups that are trying to come up with a

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00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:31,359
vaccine as fast as possible

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00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:33,920
they have to have something that will

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00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:35,040
provoke

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00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:40,160
the body to build defenses against

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00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:43,680
the coronavirus and that means

1204
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,280
that they will do tests and tests to see

1205
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:49,680
if what they're going to put in a

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00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:51,920
proposed vaccine will

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00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:54,240
provoke the antibody production in the

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00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:56,160
body that's what you need and you need

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00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:56,960
it to happen

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00:52:00,790 --> 00:52:00,160
safely because there are a lot of things

1211
00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:00,800
that can go

1212
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:04,079
haywire when you are mucking around

1213
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:07,920
with the antibody and

1214
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:10,640
the possibility of some sort of an

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00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:11,920
inflammatory

1216
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:14,640
or immune response and that's why these

1217
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:15,599
are not easy

1218
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:18,880
to do but the

1219
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:22,160
today in the new york times

1220
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:25,040
they had hopes rising for a vaccine

1221
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:25,839
within

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00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:29,119
months not years that is that would have

1223
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:29,599
seemed

1224
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:33,040
impossible we still don't have a vaccine

1225
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:34,000
for sars

1226
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:37,200
we don't have a vaccine for mers

1227
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:40,240
we don't have a vaccine for ebola

1228
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:44,640
and what they uh now what the hope is

1229
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:47,760
that the moderna vaccine even if

1230
00:52:52,309 --> 00:52:50,960
it was only eight people in their first

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00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:52,319
phase

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00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:55,520
they did see that what they

1233
00:53:02,630 --> 00:52:58,559
put in i think it was a shot

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00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:02,640
it did provoke strong immune system

1235
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:06,559
building of antibodies without any side

1236
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:07,359
effects

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00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:10,640
and so now moderna is running to do

1238
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:13,760
600 people in the next i believe it's

1239
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:17,680
30 days or so and then they want to go

1240
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:18,160
to

1241
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:21,359
thousands of people in as early as

1242
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:24,640
july using the same

1243
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:27,119
uh ingredients because that's why they

1244
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,119
do phase one phase two phase three

1245
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,200
if it works in one you go to two if it

1246
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:33,280
works in two you go to three

1247
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:36,640
well think about this if they uh get up

1248
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:39,119
to thousands of people in july

1249
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:41,920
and they are provoking antibodies and

1250
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:43,680
people are remaining healthy

1251
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,119
and there are no side effects wow

1252
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:49,680
it could be that we would have at least

1253
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:50,800
the prototype

1254
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:54,079
of an effective vaccine but then we're

1255
00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:56,559
at where we started this discussion in

1256
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:57,680
the beginning

1257
00:54:00,950 --> 00:54:00,160
there's 7.6 billion people on this

1258
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:00,960
planet

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00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:04,480
affected

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00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:08,079
so far by covid so to

1261
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:11,680
then to be to breathe easy so to speak

1262
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:12,880
on the earth

1263
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:15,680
you would have to get vaccinations out

1264
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:16,559
in a huge

1265
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:19,280
percentage of the world's population and

1266
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:20,240
that's why

1267
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:23,040
you're up into a billion or more doses

1268
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:24,000
and how long

1269
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:27,359
does that take i don't know if anybody

1270
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:30,240
has an answer to that yet but we might

1271
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:30,640
be

1272
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:33,920
close to an effective

1273
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:37,520
vaccine and the doctors make this point

1274
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:38,079
also

1275
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:41,440
in this article there cannot be just

1276
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:44,720
one vaccine if that were to happen

1277
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:47,200
the company that made it would have no

1278
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:47,760
chance

1279
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:50,079
of meeting the world's demand and that

1280
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:51,359
makes sense to me

1281
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,359
and so that whatever the approach is

1282
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:55,280
going to be that is medically sound

1283
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:56,559
they're going to have to have

1284
00:55:02,710 --> 00:54:59,599
many companies be producing it

1285
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:02,720
to get it out once we know

1286
00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:04,720
that a certain percentage of the world

1287
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:06,799
has been vaccinated

1288
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,599
that's when you wouldn't have to be

1289
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:11,040
thinking about masks

1290
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:14,319
and glasses and hats and all of that

1291
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:17,440
but will that happen within

1292
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:21,200
12 months 18 months so you can see

1293
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,559
why even on this fast track you're not

1294
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:26,480
going to have the world be

1295
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:29,520
safe again until there is large

1296
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:30,400
vaccination

1297
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:34,720
and that's going to take a lot of effort

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00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:36,400
let's take our break right here our

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guest tonight linda moulton how i'm

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jimmy church we're discussing the

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coronavirus

1302
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:44,799
and all of linda's research into

1303
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:47,920
coronavirus and kovid19 we will continue

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00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:49,440
after this short break this is fade to

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black on the game changer network

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all right welcome back paid to black i

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am your host jimmy church hello to

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everybody listening all around the world

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this is fade to black on the game

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changer network and ktra the planet our

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guest tonight linda molten howe

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00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:48,720
we're discussing all of her latest

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research into coronavirus and covet 19.

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uh before the break we were talking

1316
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:54,720
about vaccines linda

1317
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and uh i i want to start here in that

1318
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:02,400
there is so much opposition

1319
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:05,200
that has been built up against the

1320
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:05,920
vaccine

1321
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:08,880
idea that i'm not sure that anybody

1322
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:10,960
would take the vaccine

1323
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:14,400
how uh and that includes myself

1324
00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:17,760
how how do we make sure that

1325
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:20,799
the vaccines are are pure

1326
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:23,680
clean and and free of all of the

1327
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:25,520
chemicals and everything else

1328
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:28,720
that are polluting vaccines and creating

1329
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:31,200
all of the concern today

1330
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:34,559
i have been getting a flu vaccine every

1331
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:35,040
year

1332
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:39,200
of my life since i was a teenager

1333
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:42,319
i have worked for unicef and different

1334
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:44,559
companies around the world

1335
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:48,400
going into places like in ethiopia

1336
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:51,200
i did a film for unicef called new hope

1337
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:51,760
in child

1338
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:55,040
survival and they called me in and said

1339
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:58,160
linda there's a new strain of cholera

1340
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:01,760
in addis ababa and we'd like to send you

1341
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,400
there uh their doctors from harvard are

1342
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:06,480
going to be there

1343
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:09,359
and we'd like to do a film on new hope

1344
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:10,799
in child survival

1345
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:12,640
during a time when there is a new

1346
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:14,480
cholera strain

1347
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:18,240
and um i had to have i think

1348
00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:20,880
i can't remember now six or seven

1349
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,319
different shots

1350
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:24,960
over two or three days those are

1351
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:26,319
vaccines

1352
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:31,119
effective you have shots that

1353
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:34,240
like for yellow fever that you're hoping

1354
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:35,200
that it will help

1355
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:38,960
boost your body's ability to recognize

1356
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:41,040
i'm saying that i have traveled the

1357
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:43,200
world i have done films i have been

1358
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:43,680
around

1359
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:47,520
cholera i have had harvard doctors say

1360
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:48,400
treat your

1361
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:51,440
hands and your feet like an enemy

1362
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:54,880
and not eat literally made a film for

1363
00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:56,319
two weeks in which for nine

1364
00:59:02,150 --> 00:59:00,000
hours we did not eat any food

1365
00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:02,160
anywhere or drink anywhere because it

1366
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:04,079
was not safe

1367
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:07,359
and when when you have

1368
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:11,599
that kind of background

1369
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:15,520
my respect for hard medicine

1370
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:18,559
and vaccines is enormous and

1371
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:21,920
coming back the polio

1372
00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:26,079
polio was a horrible disease

1373
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:29,280
it it was just awful and

1374
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:32,160
it was this miraculous incredible

1375
00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:33,280
breakthrough

1376
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:36,319
those vaccines prevented that ended

1377
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:39,760
polio uh in the world and there may be

1378
00:59:44,349 --> 00:59:41,440
resurgences now

1379
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:44,359
because i personally think that the

1380
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:45,680
anti-vaxxer

1381
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:49,599
point of view is completely wrong

1382
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:52,720
for the reasons that vaccines

1383
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:56,319
are there to help us and protect us

1384
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:00,000
not to hurt us and that i'm living proof

1385
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:03,520
i have had so many vaccine vaccines and

1386
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:07,680
needles uh in my work for decades

1387
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:11,359
and i think that i have survived well

1388
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:15,200
because i had the shots

1389
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:18,240
and even getting a flu shot

1390
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:20,559
every single year doesn't mean that i

1391
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:21,920
won't get the flu

1392
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:24,400
because you can get it we don't have a

1393
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:27,520
perfect vaccine that matches and why

1394
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:31,599
because influenza which is on the dna

1395
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:32,319
side

1396
01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:39,040
influenza changes all of the time

1397
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,920
it's extremely changeable the corona

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01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:42,720
virus

1399
01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:46,160
is not quite as changeable

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01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:48,799
maybe a lot less changeable it's another

1401
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:50,160
one of the differences in

1402
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,359
characteristics

1403
01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:53,119
well that's why you have to get a

1404
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:54,960
vaccine for the flu

1405
01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:57,839
every single fall because it keeps

1406
01:01:01,510 --> 01:00:58,720
changing

1407
01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:01,520
and some of those mutations like hong

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01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:02,000
kong

1409
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:05,200
flew in 68 i remember

1410
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:08,799
that i had that and i'd had shots it was

1411
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:11,839
horrible and a lot of people died from

1412
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:15,280
hong kong so i uh

1413
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:18,960
i cannot say more strongly

1414
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:22,799
that getting children vaccinated and

1415
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:24,240
continuing to have

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01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:27,760
flu shots is a very important part of

1417
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:30,319
living a healthy life

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01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:34,319
and well and like i said the

1419
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:37,440
the opposition you know and i've been

1420
01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:39,680
i've been you know following this in the

1421
01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:40,559
media

1422
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:45,760
reporting this

1423
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,720
i very rarely say this is actually

1424
01:01:53,549 --> 01:01:50,240
pretty accurate

1425
01:01:56,710 --> 01:01:53,559
that the uh the opposition to

1426
01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:56,720
vaccination worldwide is

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01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:00,400
there and that's a a huge hurdle to

1428
01:02:08,230 --> 01:02:04,079
overcome next is this is that

1429
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:08,240
the thought of a new world order-ish

1430
01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:10,960
environment where if you don't get you

1431
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:12,160
know the vaccines are going to be

1432
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:13,520
mandatory

1433
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:15,680
you don't get vaccined then you're not

1434
01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:17,440
going to get a vaccination card you're

1435
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:18,799
not going to get a job you're not going

1436
01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:20,400
to be able to work you're not going to

1437
01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:21,839
be able to do this and this is

1438
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:25,119
part of a control mechanism for the

1439
01:02:29,109 --> 01:02:25,920
planet

1440
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:29,119
now i'm not saying that this may be the

1441
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:30,000
case

1442
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:32,400
but there are a lot of people on this

1443
01:02:36,069 --> 01:02:33,039
planet

1444
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:36,079
that are looking at this from

1445
01:02:41,029 --> 01:02:38,880
only this perspective how do we overcome

1446
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:41,039
that

1447
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:47,680
argument do you have a mother

1448
01:02:53,589 --> 01:02:50,720
and a father that you love do you have a

1449
01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:53,599
wife or a husband that you love

1450
01:03:00,789 --> 01:02:57,680
do you have children that you love

1451
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:00,799
the whole point of all of this

1452
01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:04,000
is to try to perpetuate human life

1453
01:03:12,150 --> 01:03:08,880
not kill it and vaccines

1454
01:03:15,829 --> 01:03:12,160
are the way to

1455
01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:15,839
stop covid and right now

1456
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:18,720
the fact that we've got a hunt i think i

1457
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:20,640
think i'm not overstating i'm pretty

1458
01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:21,839
sure here it is

1459
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:24,880
this is in the new york times today more

1460
01:03:29,589 --> 01:03:26,400
than 100

1461
01:03:30,069 --> 01:03:29,599
research teams around the world are now

1462
01:03:32,710 --> 01:03:30,079
taking

1463
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:32,720
aim at this virus from multiple angles

1464
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:34,000
meaning to come up with

1465
01:03:38,789 --> 01:03:37,119
vaccines 100 and this may make the

1466
01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:38,799
difference

1467
01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:41,119
whether it's going to be moderna or

1468
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:42,319
somebody else

1469
01:03:48,230 --> 01:03:45,200
we've got a lot of very smart brilliant

1470
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:48,240
minds and what is the motivation

1471
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:51,359
the motivation is to save

1472
01:03:56,829 --> 01:03:54,880
human lives and that is the way i look

1473
01:03:58,630 --> 01:03:56,839
at everything this because the

1474
01:04:02,230 --> 01:03:58,640
coronavirus if it were

1475
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:02,240
allowed to go through the population

1476
01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:05,760
without anybody putting on masks

1477
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:09,599
i think that uh that dr fauci

1478
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:13,520
and sanjay gupta and

1479
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:16,000
osterholm at the university of wisconsin

1480
01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:17,119
they've all said

1481
01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:20,880
the same thing the so-called herd

1482
01:04:27,670 --> 01:04:24,319
herd herd immunity

1483
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:27,680
that was what uh boris johnson

1484
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:31,280
in london at first before he got sick

1485
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:33,200
he had said well let's just let

1486
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:34,960
everybody get sick

1487
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:37,920
we'll get hurt immunity uh it'll all be

1488
01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:39,359
over

1489
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:43,119
and remember when the number of

1490
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:46,319
deaths were climbing in england every

1491
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:46,720
day

1492
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:49,280
at such a staggering rate that it was

1493
01:04:52,870 --> 01:04:50,640
shocking and then

1494
01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:52,880
he got sick and was hospitalized and

1495
01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:54,000
might have died and

1496
01:05:00,710 --> 01:04:57,680
everybody then realized including him

1497
01:05:04,630 --> 01:05:00,720
this is lethal

1498
01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:04,640
and the lethality of covid

1499
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:08,079
19 is what is provoking

1500
01:05:11,589 --> 01:05:11,200
the energy to come up with a vaccine

1501
01:05:15,430 --> 01:05:11,599
that

1502
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:15,440
would essentially save the world

1503
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:18,720
on the other side of a vaccine also

1504
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:21,920
is more freedom not less if we get a

1505
01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:23,119
good vaccine

1506
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:26,319
and a good huge percentage of

1507
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:29,760
the population can be vaccinated

1508
01:05:35,109 --> 01:05:32,799
then we don't need to wear masks and

1509
01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:35,119
glasses or anything else

1510
01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:37,599
until we're hit with another pandemic

1511
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:39,599
maybe in another hundred years and by

1512
01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:40,240
then

1513
01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:43,119
maybe we'll have bases on mars and all

1514
01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:44,480
over the place and

1515
01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:46,960
they'll have a new way to eradicate but

1516
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:48,079
meanwhile

1517
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:51,359
right now at this decade of the 21st

1518
01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:52,799
century

1519
01:05:56,470 --> 01:05:55,760
if we can get a good vaccine jimmy it

1520
01:05:59,910 --> 01:05:56,480
will be

1521
01:06:04,549 --> 01:05:59,920
freedom for the world the

1522
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:04,559
uh there is there's two arguments

1523
01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:07,280
that are going on right now uh across

1524
01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:08,880
the country that

1525
01:06:15,029 --> 01:06:12,559
directly conflict with each other

1526
01:06:15,910 --> 01:06:15,039
and let me state both and then i want

1527
01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:15,920
your response

1528
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:19,599
you have one side that says

1529
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:22,799
uh the the mask and

1530
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:24,960
the shutdown and everything was not

1531
01:06:28,710 --> 01:06:25,920
worth it

1532
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:28,720
the deaths and the infections aren't

1533
01:06:33,190 --> 01:06:29,760
high enough

1534
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:33,200
for us to ruin the economy the flip side

1535
01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:36,720
of that is going to be that argument is

1536
01:06:43,029 --> 01:06:40,559
is is there that it could have been much

1537
01:06:44,950 --> 01:06:43,039
much much much worse we were predicting

1538
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:44,960
a million deaths and we were predicting

1539
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:46,720
a hundred thousand infections

1540
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:49,599
all of that was prevented because of the

1541
01:06:54,069 --> 01:06:50,799
lockdown

1542
01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:54,079
the two cannot co-exist

1543
01:06:57,910 --> 01:06:56,880
right and and that and and that is what

1544
01:07:01,589 --> 01:06:57,920
we are facing

1545
01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:01,599
so one would say the reason why

1546
01:07:06,309 --> 01:07:04,799
everything is so low is because we went

1547
01:07:09,270 --> 01:07:06,319
through the lockdown

1548
01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:09,280
right and you can't have an argument on

1549
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:10,799
both sides

1550
01:07:16,710 --> 01:07:14,240
and have them both be right and this

1551
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:16,720
is what is messing with everybody's

1552
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:17,599
minds

1553
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:19,839
everybody wants to fight about this

1554
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:21,599
because they're on one side of this or

1555
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:22,319
the other

1556
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:26,319
and not not looking at the big picture

1557
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:28,960
as to what is really going on i myself i

1558
01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:30,480
i don't have a clue

1559
01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:33,839
but i i do see this this line in the

1560
01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:34,640
sand

1561
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:37,039
with everybody fighting each other over

1562
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:38,400
this when

1563
01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:40,880
their arguments are going against what

1564
01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:43,760
the other side is saying

1565
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:47,119
i i think you and everybody who

1566
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:50,480
would make those words that you just

1567
01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:51,520
said

1568
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:54,319
you should put up hold up in front of

1569
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:55,440
you the lens

1570
01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:00,000
of polio you should go back and read

1571
01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:02,480
what was happening in the 1950s and the

1572
01:08:07,109 --> 01:08:04,720
1960s with polio

1573
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:07,119
you should look at the photographs of

1574
01:08:11,349 --> 01:08:09,280
what happened to thousands and thousands

1575
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:11,359
of children

1576
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:17,040
it was horrible the vaccines

1577
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:20,400
totally stopped it

1578
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:22,480
and that is what people should be

1579
01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:25,359
focusing on and educating themselves

1580
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:28,400
about instead of having this be

1581
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:30,960
political arguments

1582
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:34,000
read study

1583
01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:37,440
medical academic medical

1584
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:41,359
material read about vaccines and what

1585
01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:42,000
they do

1586
01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:47,669
yeah that's what people should be doing

1587
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:49,279
read

1588
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:52,960
and concentrate on learning about

1589
01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:57,359
polio and covet in its own strange way

1590
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:00,880
is as bad because it's killing people

1591
01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:04,239
fast when it infects and it does

1592
01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:07,679
it isn't confined to an age group it is

1593
01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:10,480
the bell-shaped curve and now with the

1594
01:09:14,149 --> 01:09:11,120
added

1595
01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:14,159
inflammation that they have found in the

1596
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:15,279
babies

1597
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:18,719
and the toddlers and up through teens

1598
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:19,520
like the guy

1599
01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:22,080
with the fire in his veins and this is

1600
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:23,440
not something we've

1601
01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:26,560
ever dealt with before and in fact i

1602
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:29,199
know that one of the things that doctors

1603
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:32,319
have stressed there's no one

1604
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:35,440
on planet earth who had

1605
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:38,880
any immunity whatsoever five

1606
01:09:45,269 --> 01:09:42,640
months ago to covet 19. think about that

1607
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:45,279
that's that's a true statement well the

1608
01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:46,640
the flip side of that

1609
01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:49,839
is by going into lockdown and this makes

1610
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:51,279
a lot of sense to me linda

1611
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:54,000
by going into lockdown we are preventing

1612
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:55,040
ourselves

1613
01:10:01,110 --> 01:09:58,080
from the possibility of building up an

1614
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:04,870
well you mean not getting sick and dying

1615
01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:11,910
one of the things that they are trying

1616
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:12,800
to point out

1617
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:15,920
also about the the vaccine is critical

1618
01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:16,800
and that

1619
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:20,480
because we are such a naive population

1620
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:20,800
that

1621
01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:24,320
is a medical term naive naive

1622
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:27,679
that is when the body has absolutely no

1623
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:30,719
exposure to what is hitting us

1624
01:10:36,550 --> 01:10:33,840
it's called a period of naive

1625
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:36,560
there's no immunity that's why there can

1626
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:36,960
be

1627
01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:40,320
such a high death rate and one of the

1628
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:43,360
quotes today concerning this hoax rising

1629
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:45,120
for a vaccine

1630
01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:47,840
quote almost everyone on the planet is

1631
01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:50,400
vulnerable to this new coronavirus

1632
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:53,440
and so each person may need two

1633
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:56,640
doses of a new vaccine to receive

1634
01:11:03,070 --> 01:10:59,840
protective immunity and if

1635
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:03,080
that were the case and we wanted to

1636
01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:04,719
completely

1637
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:08,239
uh help every living person on the

1638
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:09,440
planet get this

1639
01:11:16,709 --> 01:11:13,360
this is a quote that's 16 billion

1640
01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:16,719
doses yeah i know i know and

1641
01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:20,239
this is and this is what what i what i'm

1642
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:23,600
very nervous about is

1643
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:26,239
giving up giving up certain fundamental

1644
01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:27,760
rights and freedoms

1645
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:30,800
and i'm not opposed to i want to be very

1646
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:31,199
clear

1647
01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:34,320
here i'm not opposed to vaccines what

1648
01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:35,440
i'm opposed to

1649
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:38,239
is taking away somebody's rights whether

1650
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:40,239
they want to take the vaccine

1651
01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:43,120
or not just like the flu vaccine that

1652
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,800
you're talking about each year right

1653
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:46,400
your flu shots people have a choice to

1654
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:48,000
take it or not a lot of people die from

1655
01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:48,719
the flu

1656
01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:51,199
but that's a that's a choice and people

1657
01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:54,239
are willing to take that risk

1658
01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:57,679
controlling people uh over this

1659
01:12:01,189 --> 01:12:00,800
and making things mandatory i'm not i'm

1660
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:01,199
not

1661
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:05,520
wouldn't take the vaccine

1662
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:08,000
i mean jimmy come back to that question

1663
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:08,640
that i was

1664
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:12,000
posing and i'm serious for me

1665
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:15,520
this is the only lens that counts

1666
01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:18,719
are there people that you love and you

1667
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:22,560
want them to live covid

1668
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:26,159
is not a walk in the park and when you

1669
01:12:30,750 --> 01:12:27,280
hear them say

1670
01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:30,760
well the percentage of deaths is maybe

1671
01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:34,080
3.4 percent that's

1672
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:37,440
still 3.4 too many yeah you're right

1673
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:38,000
about that

1674
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:40,560
you're right and and here is here's a

1675
01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:42,880
here's a crazy statement

1676
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:45,760
i'm just going to say it as bluntly as i

1677
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:46,239
can

1678
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:49,120
you you have taken a flu vaccine every

1679
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:49,679
year

1680
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:53,120
right i have not i've never had a blue

1681
01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:54,800
vaccine in my life

1682
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,920
never and and let me tell you why when i

1683
01:13:04,390 --> 01:12:59,760
wa

1684
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,400
for a big corporation

1685
01:13:08,070 --> 01:13:06,480
flu vaccines are coming in right and

1686
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:08,080
everybody can go down to the cafeteria

1687
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:10,000
and get your free flu shot

1688
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:12,480
and my boss goes man every year i take

1689
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:13,520
that flu shot

1690
01:13:16,950 --> 01:13:16,000
and it i get sicker from the flu than i

1691
01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:16,960
do from the

1692
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:20,320
that freaked me out

1693
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:22,320
and i just never been sick from a flu

1694
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:24,000
shot in my life well i'm just saying

1695
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:25,199
that's what he said to me

1696
01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:27,679
right and and it just it's just

1697
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:28,480
something that

1698
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:30,880
i didn't want to experience but here i

1699
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:32,080
am 56

1700
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:35,199
never had a flu shot i think i i don't

1701
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:37,280
remember ever getting the flu

1702
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:39,920
i might have maybe have gotten it once i

1703
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:41,600
don't know maybe it was a bad cold not

1704
01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:42,640
sure

1705
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:45,280
but i've never had a flu shot and that's

1706
01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:46,560
my choice

1707
01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:48,560
that i have made that's all that i'm

1708
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:50,000
saying you know it

1709
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:51,920
coronavirus may be the roughest thing

1710
01:13:55,590 --> 01:13:53,120
out there and and

1711
01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:55,600
people need to take uh take note about

1712
01:13:58,229 --> 01:13:56,400
what's going on

1713
01:13:59,669 --> 01:13:58,239
no question about it and it's mutating

1714
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:59,679
there's no question about it and it's

1715
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:01,120
affecting the planet

1716
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:04,800
no question about it but if if if we go

1717
01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:07,360
into this mandatory situation

1718
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:08,880
that's where people are going to stand

1719
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:11,280
up and go wait a minute here

1720
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:14,000
and and i i just don't think we need any

1721
01:14:18,790 --> 01:14:15,920
more problems you know and any more

1722
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:18,800
fear thrown into the fear pile and let

1723
01:14:28,149 --> 01:14:19,360
me

1724
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:28,159
when you get up to 331 million people is

1725
01:14:32,669 --> 01:14:30,400
i believe the last census number for the

1726
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:32,679
population in the united states

1727
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:36,640
331 million uh one and a half billion in

1728
01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:37,199
china

1729
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,840
and around the world huge huge human

1730
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:42,560
populations

1731
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:46,800
there is what i consider it to be

1732
01:14:56,229 --> 01:14:51,120
the demarcation line of compassion

1733
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:56,239
that when you are dealing with huge

1734
01:15:03,510 --> 01:14:59,520
populations and

1735
01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:03,520
plagues and potential and look at how

1736
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:05,280
many we have had

1737
01:15:13,189 --> 01:15:09,760
20 uh in 2002

1738
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:13,199
when sars hit there were i remember

1739
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:15,199
i was interviewing virologists and

1740
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:16,400
people and they were

1741
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,640
really terrified that this was going to

1742
01:15:22,709 --> 01:15:20,480
be what coronavirus is now

1743
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:22,719
they thought that was going to take off

1744
01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:24,239
and it was going to be

1745
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:28,239
global and then it settled down

1746
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:31,040
and it was lethal but it was not very

1747
01:15:36,149 --> 01:15:32,480
contagious

1748
01:15:39,709 --> 01:15:36,159
and uh then mers was even more lethal

1749
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:39,719
and it wasn't as contagious uh

1750
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:43,600
h1n1 uh ebola

1751
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:46,640
they each one the world thought

1752
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:49,280
the medical community thought oh god

1753
01:15:53,350 --> 01:15:50,080
this could be

1754
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:53,360
the one that's going to take the planet

1755
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:56,560
now we are living with the reality

1756
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:59,360
of a coronavirus that has taken the

1757
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:01,040
whole planet

1758
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:04,480
and what was the body count today

1759
01:16:11,350 --> 01:16:07,760
was it four million uh we are

1760
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:13,750
five million one hundred and ninety four

1761
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:14,640
thousand

1762
01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:18,880
okay more than five million human beings

1763
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:22,159
that were alive five months ago or so

1764
01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:24,320
no that's infections that's infections

1765
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:26,800
okay so what is the death rate uh

1766
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:30,320
330 yeah 300 yeah the numbers just

1767
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:33,760
are too crazy thousand 334

1768
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:37,040
hundred and twenty one for the world yes

1769
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:40,800
okay so there were uh approximately

1770
01:16:46,149 --> 01:16:43,520
nearly four hundred thousand people

1771
01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:46,159
that five months ago were alive that are

1772
01:16:51,430 --> 01:16:48,400
now dead

1773
01:16:58,790 --> 01:16:51,440
yep and i i

1774
01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:01,430
the demarcation line of compassion for

1775
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:04,400
your fellow human beings

1776
01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:07,600
is that you put on rules

1777
01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:11,199
and controls and

1778
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:15,360
lockdowns and everything you can do

1779
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:17,840
to get through an attack like this

1780
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:20,080
coronavirus

1781
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:24,080
looking at every rule every

1782
01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:26,239
you must wear a mask you must have

1783
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:28,239
glasses you must do this

1784
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:31,440
it's for you and your fellow man

1785
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:34,480
that to me is the natural my

1786
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:37,920
natural instinct is that then

1787
01:17:45,430 --> 01:17:41,440
if you get the vaccines that work

1788
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:45,440
and everybody gets vaccinated then

1789
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:48,000
you can be free again until something

1790
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:49,040
else happens

1791
01:17:54,149 --> 01:17:52,960
where every human becomes a threat to

1792
01:17:56,709 --> 01:17:54,159
another human's

1793
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:56,719
life that's what we're going through and

1794
01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:58,320
that is something we have never

1795
01:18:02,630 --> 01:17:59,440
experienced

1796
01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:02,640
but that to me says that calls

1797
01:18:08,709 --> 01:18:05,679
for strictness this calls for discipline

1798
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:08,719
this calls for uh trying to get

1799
01:18:12,790 --> 01:18:11,199
everybody to understand that wearing a

1800
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:12,800
mask is a two-way

1801
01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:16,560
street and i love my fellow humans

1802
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:19,760
and i don't want people

1803
01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:22,880
to die because they're arguing over

1804
01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:24,320
whether or not

1805
01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:27,840
wearing a mask is losing some control

1806
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:29,760
over their independence

1807
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:32,800
the idea is look at it as this

1808
01:18:39,669 --> 01:18:36,480
is a really strong tool to save

1809
01:18:42,790 --> 01:18:39,679
all of us yeah

1810
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:42,800
it's uh and one of the things oh oh oh

1811
01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:44,239
we're going to take a break here in just

1812
01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:46,159
a second linda when we come back

1813
01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:48,320
i'm going to change gears i want to talk

1814
01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:49,280
about brazil

1815
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:52,159
and maize yeah okay so uh uh we're going

1816
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:53,520
to come back and do that

1817
01:19:00,070 --> 01:18:56,960
um uh i'll say i'll say this

1818
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:00,080
and and i truly mean this when

1819
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:02,880
uh we stopped covering coronavirus uh

1820
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:04,480
two months ago on this show

1821
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:06,239
right i didn't want to be a part of it i

1822
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:07,920
didn't understand it i wanted to let the

1823
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:09,600
media play it out if somebody wanted

1824
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:10,560
information

1825
01:19:14,390 --> 01:19:13,040
they could go somewhere else and find it

1826
01:19:17,030 --> 01:19:14,400
here we're just going to do

1827
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:17,040
our thing that in a couple of months in

1828
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:17,920
a few months

1829
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:20,960
when uh the smoke is cleared somewhat

1830
01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:22,960
and we have a clearer understanding

1831
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:24,880
about what's going on

1832
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:27,280
that i'll come back in and visit this

1833
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:28,800
and talk about this because i'm not an

1834
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:29,840
expert

1835
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:32,640
well let's hope by then that we have a

1836
01:19:37,510 --> 01:19:34,480
light at the end of the tunnel in a

1837
01:19:40,390 --> 01:19:37,520
vaccine and that you will see

1838
01:19:40,870 --> 01:19:40,400
the intelligence of getting a vaccine

1839
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:40,880
dear

1840
01:19:44,310 --> 01:19:43,520
jimmy church this will be your first

1841
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:44,320
vaccine

1842
01:19:48,870 --> 01:19:47,360
and it will be crucial and

1843
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:48,880
and you know what and we'll come back

1844
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:50,560
and we'll have that show

1845
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:52,320
and it'll be a great one let's take a

1846
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:54,960
break right here i i i want to say

1847
01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:58,080
uh what's going on uh down there in

1848
01:20:03,030 --> 01:19:59,440
brazil

1849
01:20:03,750 --> 01:20:03,040
um yeah i've seen a couple is it major

1850
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:03,760
maje

1851
01:20:07,510 --> 01:20:06,159
you say tomato i say tomato it's pork

1852
01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:07,520
it's portuguese

1853
01:20:13,750 --> 01:20:10,719
and the correct pronunciation is majes

1854
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:13,760
okay ma okay so is that

1855
01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:16,320
we have a situation here and i started

1856
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:18,320
to see these comments uh

1857
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:20,560
and and you can save the giggle for

1858
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:21,679
later if you want

1859
01:20:26,709 --> 01:20:23,520
but i've seen the comments going you

1860
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:26,719
know what we have a roswell situation

1861
01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:27,600
going down

1862
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:30,960
in real time we need to not have another

1863
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:32,400
roswell here

1864
01:20:35,830 --> 01:20:33,760
and i stepped back and i thought you

1865
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:35,840
know what that actually makes a lot of

1866
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:36,960
sense

1867
01:20:43,270 --> 01:20:40,159
this is going down in real time

1868
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:43,280
and it's an opportunity for us

1869
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:44,800
you know the ufo community and

1870
01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:46,560
everything else uh

1871
01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:48,080
to to make sure that we don't have

1872
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,520
another roswell do you think those

1873
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:51,360
comparisons are fair

1874
01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:54,960
well if you mean that uh counter intel

1875
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:55,679
moved in

1876
01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:58,400
very quickly to cover up yes the crash

1877
01:21:02,709 --> 01:21:00,560
of a craft and what i think

1878
01:21:04,229 --> 01:21:02,719
our bodies and they're not grazed

1879
01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:04,239
there's they're different

1880
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:07,840
um that yes that's a parallel

1881
01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:11,120
uh there there's much to talk about and

1882
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:11,760
i do

1883
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:15,199
have uh an email that came to me

1884
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:18,480
this afternoon that i'll share for your

1885
01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:20,159
reaction

1886
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,000
let's uh take our break right here our

1887
01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:24,239
guest tonight linda moulton howe i

1888
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:26,320
am your host jimmy church this is fade

1889
01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:27,760
to black when we come back we're going

1890
01:21:32,629 --> 01:21:29,520
to discuss what is going on

1891
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:32,639
right now down in brazil we've got uh a

1892
01:21:36,550 --> 01:21:35,520
serious ufo encounter crash and

1893
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:36,560
retrieval

1894
01:21:43,450 --> 01:21:37,840
that has just happened over the last

1895
01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:43,460
week i'll be right back stay with us

1896
01:21:56,950 --> 01:21:53,120
[Music]

1897
01:21:58,950 --> 01:21:56,960
welcome back i am your host jimmy church

1898
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:58,960
what a great conversation tonight linda

1899
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:01,520
moulton howe

1900
01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:05,040
linda it's like this linda you always

1901
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:06,000
bring your a game

1902
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:08,239
we respect you for that and and thank

1903
01:22:12,149 --> 01:22:09,040
you and

1904
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:12,159
show now for a couple of weeks and i

1905
01:22:14,550 --> 01:22:12,800
know

1906
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:14,560
how many people you were speaking to and

1907
01:22:19,910 --> 01:22:16,960
interviewing and leading up to this and

1908
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:19,920
and uh i didn't ask any questions i just

1909
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:21,120
wanted to

1910
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:22,880
learn something tonight and see what was

1911
01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:24,480
going on so thank you for that

1912
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:27,520
and i know i know that

1913
01:22:31,669 --> 01:22:30,480
you have uh got some inside info about

1914
01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:31,679
majay

1915
01:22:36,149 --> 01:22:33,520
and i like the way that you uh corrected

1916
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:36,159
me on that last week let me let me back

1917
01:22:39,430 --> 01:22:37,199
up if i may

1918
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:39,440
uh last week on i think it was on

1919
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:40,800
wednesday

1920
01:22:44,390 --> 01:22:43,120
when these videos started to show up on

1921
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:44,400
on twitter

1922
01:22:49,669 --> 01:22:47,600
and and i was checking those out i had a

1923
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:49,679
show wednesday night just like you do

1924
01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:52,400
and then i thought wow that that's kind

1925
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:53,360
of strange

1926
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:56,159
okay all right this looks interesting on

1927
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:57,679
thursday morning

1928
01:23:00,709 --> 01:23:00,000
uh i got an email you may have gotten

1929
01:23:02,390 --> 01:23:00,719
the same one

1930
01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:02,400
i got an email from somebody that sent

1931
01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:04,560
me the video of the meteor

1932
01:23:07,590 --> 01:23:06,560
meteorite or whatever i thought it was a

1933
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:07,600
meteorite

1934
01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:10,400
crashing into the side of the mountain

1935
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:11,199
and

1936
01:23:17,430 --> 01:23:15,360
i went okay well that was

1937
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:17,440
last night that was going on in the

1938
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:18,480
middle of all of this

1939
01:23:23,350 --> 01:23:20,320
other stuff that was going on above this

1940
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:23,360
town that's a strange coincidence to

1941
01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:24,719
have happened

1942
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:28,400
after that all hell broke loose and

1943
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:32,080
uh something happened down there

1944
01:23:39,189 --> 01:23:35,440
and what do you think is uh going on

1945
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:39,199
uh well let me uh go

1946
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:42,400
i've got opened up emails that i

1947
01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:43,199
received

1948
01:23:50,070 --> 01:23:46,480
on may 15th and

1949
01:23:54,070 --> 01:23:50,080
i reported uh wednesday

1950
01:23:57,669 --> 01:23:56,149
just a minute i want to make sure i'm

1951
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:57,679
giving this to you correct

1952
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:59,280
yeah i was thinking the same thing but

1953
01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:00,960
i'm nearly positive it was

1954
01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:04,159
it was wednesday night because thursday

1955
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:07,440
we had uh open lines and it was thursday

1956
01:24:09,750 --> 01:24:09,040
morning i got that video and i talked

1957
01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:09,760
about it

1958
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:13,520
thursday night on the show well i got a

1959
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:16,960
call on may 14th

1960
01:24:20,709 --> 01:24:19,840
a phone call from trageno paiva in

1961
01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:20,719
brazil

1962
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:24,560
he's a producer director it's called wpi

1963
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:28,080
films limited in a suburb outside of rio

1964
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:30,400
de janeiro and he has met me i think at

1965
01:24:34,790 --> 01:24:31,600
contact or

1966
01:24:36,790 --> 01:24:34,800
conscious life expo in the past and

1967
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:36,800
every once in a while he has

1968
01:24:43,830 --> 01:24:40,320
sent me updates and on

1969
01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:43,840
may 14th his email to me said

1970
01:24:50,629 --> 01:24:47,600
ufo in monge

1971
01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:50,639
town near rio de janeiro may 14

1972
01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:53,679
2020. dear linda

1973
01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:56,159
uh the event took place in the town of

1974
01:25:01,750 --> 01:24:58,960
majay on the night of may 14th the video

1975
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:01,760
was made by the people that lived there

1976
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:04,960
and published at youtube also they did

1977
01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:05,679
record

1978
01:25:08,870 --> 01:25:07,760
a radio conversation between the

1979
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:08,880
military

1980
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:10,960
that were in the operation for the

1981
01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:14,000
recovery of the ufo wreckage

1982
01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:17,600
and here follows the links of the videos

1983
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:20,239
and the phone number for an english

1984
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:21,199
portuguese

1985
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:24,719
translator lisa bick

1986
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:27,840
now i called trageno

1987
01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:31,120
uh as i started reading what he had sent

1988
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:32,159
me in terms

1989
01:25:35,350 --> 01:25:34,719
of the portuguese to the english on the

1990
01:25:38,790 --> 01:25:35,360
alleged

1991
01:25:39,990 --> 01:25:38,800
hacked military conversation and he said

1992
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:40,000
that he had learned

1993
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:43,760
that in fact that the event took place

1994
01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:47,520
on the night of may 11th to 12th

1995
01:25:54,470 --> 01:25:51,600
2020 and

1996
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:54,480
i called at his suggestion the

1997
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:56,320
portuguese translator

1998
01:26:03,189 --> 01:25:59,760
lisa bick and she

1999
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:03,199
allowed me to record her on sunday

2000
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:06,719
may 17th as she translated for me

2001
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:10,560
a portuguese transcript that trajano had

2002
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:11,040
gotten

2003
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:14,400
allegedly from the hacked military radio

2004
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:16,000
communication

2005
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:19,360
that came on a video that

2006
01:26:25,990 --> 01:26:22,719
said in portuguese

2007
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:26,000
classified audio now here is

2008
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:29,440
what the translation in the portuguese i

2009
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:29,840
have

2010
01:26:33,430 --> 01:26:31,840
everything that he sent me but this is

2011
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:33,440
what uh

2012
01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:36,480
these are the words

2013
01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:38,719
start of communication by radio between

2014
01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:40,000
the military team

2015
01:26:47,350 --> 01:26:44,320
basis one two three and four radio noise

2016
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:47,360
base four confirm arrival at the station

2017
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:50,000
alcantara base confirms the damage of

2018
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:51,120
the object with an

2019
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:54,880
american shot an american shot is in

2020
01:27:01,189 --> 01:26:56,560
quotes

2021
01:27:03,910 --> 01:27:01,199
confirm if it was shot down radio noise

2022
01:27:06,229 --> 01:27:03,920
confirmed position go to the location

2023
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:06,239
you will need three or four teams

2024
01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:09,440
there are too much material to collect

2025
01:27:15,510 --> 01:27:12,480
you have to take the small road

2026
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:15,520
by the small road it's not possible to

2027
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:16,800
descend

2028
01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:19,360
and they have a discussion about bases

2029
01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:21,600
and who's going to go

2030
01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:27,280
uh it's not very clear and distorted

2031
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:30,840
about they are taking talking about

2032
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:34,480
clothes go with protection

2033
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:37,679
nobody is going to touch those

2034
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:41,600
things exclamation point these bodies

2035
01:27:46,550 --> 01:27:42,239
are not

2036
01:27:47,990 --> 01:27:46,560
humans over no way we can touch on these

2037
01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:48,000
things

2038
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:51,199
confirm he is talking about

2039
01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:54,480
taking down a drone

2040
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:58,159
confirm if the equipment was taken down

2041
01:28:01,590 --> 01:28:01,040
capture the equipment shot down drone

2042
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:01,600
also

2043
01:28:07,750 --> 01:28:04,560
is to be taken to the base over the

2044
01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:07,760
truck is going down by the small road

2045
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:11,040
positive base four over go

2046
01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:14,080
taking it slowly by parts till the

2047
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:16,800
factory and there will we will see what

2048
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:17,600
to do

2049
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:21,040
like take the wreckage to a factory

2050
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:24,880
it it has to be taken with camouflage

2051
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:29,120
over everything is smashed

2052
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:32,080
damaged and there is no way we can put

2053
01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:33,040
it there

2054
01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:36,400
there are more bodies inside i have

2055
01:28:39,830 --> 01:28:36,800
never

2056
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:39,840
seen such a thing this thing is not

2057
01:28:46,709 --> 01:28:43,120
people do you copy base too

2058
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:46,719
do not approve without proper clothes

2059
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:50,880
wait till it arrives at the patio

2060
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:54,719
is protected closed cover everything

2061
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:58,000
so nothing can be seen retrieve

2062
01:29:01,830 --> 01:29:00,960
all cell phones from the guard did you

2063
01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:01,840
copy

2064
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:05,120
do not allow anyone to record anything

2065
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:08,719
did you copy i did copy base two

2066
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:12,080
base one the american corporation from

2067
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:13,360
alcantara

2068
01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:16,080
is going to the base position and will

2069
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:17,040
retrieve the

2070
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:20,080
objects do you copy

2071
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:24,719
it is to operate within the aguia

2072
01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:28,080
protocol and i went

2073
01:29:34,270 --> 01:29:31,360
to google translate and typed in

2074
01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:36,790
a-g-u-i-a

2075
01:29:42,709 --> 01:29:40,000
and it came up as eagle

2076
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:42,719
and of course the united states has a

2077
01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:43,199
strong

2078
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:47,920
long historic association with eagles

2079
01:29:57,030 --> 01:29:52,880
now that was the 14th 15th

2080
01:30:04,310 --> 01:30:01,430
here today

2081
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:04,320
actually it was yesterday's date but i

2082
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:05,360
got it today

2083
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:08,159
because i was doing my show last night

2084
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:10,000
and other things so i

2085
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:12,880
saw this this morning and printed it out

2086
01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:14,000
tell me

2087
01:30:17,910 --> 01:30:17,360
if you've received this i would like to

2088
01:30:21,669 --> 01:30:17,920
know

2089
01:30:25,030 --> 01:30:21,679
if this is being distributed

2090
01:30:27,669 --> 01:30:25,040
hello i'm a military at the armed forces

2091
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:27,679
i will bring updated information so that

2092
01:30:33,030 --> 01:30:30,400
the entire brazilian population

2093
01:30:33,990 --> 01:30:33,040
can learn about the inexplicable events

2094
01:30:36,629 --> 01:30:34,000
that occurred in the

2095
01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:36,639
region and that all residents can have

2096
01:30:41,270 --> 01:30:39,120
access to the truth of the facts

2097
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:41,280
that happened in the municipality of

2098
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:42,480
majes

2099
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:45,760
near rio de janeiro for a distance

2100
01:30:51,830 --> 01:30:49,360
it is across canberra bay and from rio

2101
01:30:52,629 --> 01:30:51,840
de janeiro it you have to go around the

2102
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:52,639
bay

2103
01:30:56,229 --> 01:30:55,600
uh as the crow flies it's not more than

2104
01:30:59,430 --> 01:30:56,239
probably

2105
01:31:02,070 --> 01:30:59,440
20 straight miles from the city of rio

2106
01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:02,080
de janeiro to majay

2107
01:31:06,709 --> 01:31:04,719
initially i will draw a timeline so that

2108
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:06,719
everyone can understand what was going

2109
01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:07,840
on

2110
01:31:12,229 --> 01:31:10,800
and this is what i received today and

2111
01:31:15,910 --> 01:31:12,239
the first date goes

2112
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:15,920
on april 20th that would be a full month

2113
01:31:19,590 --> 01:31:16,800
ago

2114
01:31:21,430 --> 01:31:19,600
now uh let me let me jump in linda and i

2115
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:21,440
want the audience to know that i got the

2116
01:31:26,390 --> 01:31:22,560
same

2117
01:31:29,669 --> 01:31:26,400
uh letter uh and i read through it

2118
01:31:30,709 --> 01:31:29,679
what linda is gonna review now with all

2119
01:31:33,669 --> 01:31:30,719
of you

2120
01:31:34,070 --> 01:31:33,679
um i mean i was pretty shocked and i am

2121
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:34,080
yeah

2122
01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:36,480
and i don't i don't think that this is

2123
01:31:41,350 --> 01:31:37,760
concocted

2124
01:31:44,229 --> 01:31:41,360
but i sure would like to understand

2125
01:31:45,030 --> 01:31:44,239
if there's anybody out there listening

2126
01:31:49,030 --> 01:31:45,040
for jimmy

2127
01:31:52,149 --> 01:31:49,040
and for me we would both like to get

2128
01:31:55,750 --> 01:31:52,159
some kind of credible

2129
01:31:58,629 --> 01:31:55,760
provable military source

2130
01:31:59,750 --> 01:31:58,639
that may or may not have some kind of

2131
01:32:02,310 --> 01:31:59,760
photographs

2132
01:32:03,830 --> 01:32:02,320
documents that would back up what i'm

2133
01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:03,840
now going to go through because

2134
01:32:10,709 --> 01:32:07,440
i would like to know feedback

2135
01:32:12,550 --> 01:32:10,719
to earthfiles.com and jimmy to jimmy

2136
01:32:15,430 --> 01:32:12,560
church radio on what i'm now

2137
01:32:16,870 --> 01:32:15,440
going to read yeah and it's and and and

2138
01:32:20,870 --> 01:32:16,880
and i want everybody to

2139
01:32:24,070 --> 01:32:20,880
take note here that the tracking

2140
01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:24,080
and the apparent knowledge of this

2141
01:32:30,790 --> 01:32:27,760
started on april 20th 2020

2142
01:32:33,270 --> 01:32:30,800
and right a month ago a month ago and

2143
01:32:34,950 --> 01:32:33,280
april 20th and 21st these are two

2144
01:32:37,350 --> 01:32:34,960
important dates that she's about to

2145
01:32:40,950 --> 01:32:37,360
reveal and then may 1st

2146
01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:40,960
so continue uh linda with the april 20th

2147
01:32:43,750 --> 01:32:42,000
line

2148
01:32:45,189 --> 01:32:43,760
yeah and i'm glad to know that you

2149
01:32:48,870 --> 01:32:45,199
received this and

2150
01:32:52,070 --> 01:32:48,880
uh to both the earth files listeners

2151
01:32:52,870 --> 01:32:52,080
who are listening tonight and to jimmy

2152
01:32:56,470 --> 01:32:52,880
church

2153
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:56,480
if there are people who have honest

2154
01:33:03,270 --> 01:33:00,560
actual solid evidentiary information

2155
01:33:05,350 --> 01:33:03,280
about what i'm now going to report

2156
01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:05,360
please get in touch with us

2157
01:33:12,390 --> 01:33:09,840
and you can reach me by protonmail

2158
01:33:13,270 --> 01:33:12,400
i i use that all the time with people

2159
01:33:17,189 --> 01:33:13,280
who

2160
01:33:20,550 --> 01:33:17,199
do not want to use email on april 20th

2161
01:33:21,189 --> 01:33:20,560
2020 military satellites in the united

2162
01:33:23,270 --> 01:33:21,199
states

2163
01:33:26,390 --> 01:33:23,280
detected a strong presence of

2164
01:33:29,590 --> 01:33:26,400
unexplained aerial phenomena activities

2165
01:33:34,149 --> 01:33:29,600
in some states of brazil such as piranha

2166
01:33:37,270 --> 01:33:36,149
i apologize if i'm not pronouncing that

2167
01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:37,280
one correctly

2168
01:33:43,270 --> 01:33:40,320
and rio de janeiro next day

2169
01:33:45,110 --> 01:33:43,280
april 21 2020 the united states

2170
01:33:47,189 --> 01:33:45,120
department of defense

2171
01:33:49,030 --> 01:33:47,199
following international protocols

2172
01:33:51,030 --> 01:33:49,040
determined by nato

2173
01:33:53,189 --> 01:33:51,040
advised the brazilian ministry of

2174
01:33:54,149 --> 01:33:53,199
defense and the brazilian joint chiefs

2175
01:33:57,669 --> 01:33:54,159
of staff

2176
01:34:00,390 --> 01:33:57,679
of the armed forces known as emcfa

2177
01:34:02,470 --> 01:34:00,400
to intensify military air patrolling in

2178
01:34:04,629 --> 01:34:02,480
the rio de janeiro region

2179
01:34:05,750 --> 01:34:04,639
due to an increase in the activities of

2180
01:34:07,910 --> 01:34:05,760
the phenomenon

2181
01:34:10,310 --> 01:34:07,920
in that region it was immediately

2182
01:34:12,550 --> 01:34:10,320
determined by the emcfa

2183
01:34:15,030 --> 01:34:12,560
that military air patrolling be

2184
01:34:17,270 --> 01:34:15,040
intensified in rio de janeiro

2185
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:17,280
with the support of the brazilian air

2186
01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:18,880
force fab

2187
01:34:25,270 --> 01:34:22,080
base of santa cruz hyphen

2188
01:34:28,310 --> 01:34:25,280
r j rio de janeiro

2189
01:34:31,750 --> 01:34:28,320
and the navy air base of sao pedro

2190
01:34:34,950 --> 01:34:31,760
da aldaya hyphen r

2191
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:34,960
j on may 1st

2192
01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:38,080
2020 the radars of the first integrated

2193
01:34:41,030 --> 01:34:40,000
air traffic control and air defense

2194
01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:41,040
center

2195
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:43,760
detected strong activity from unknown

2196
01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:46,080
aerial phenomena in rio de janeiro

2197
01:34:51,990 --> 01:34:49,679
state in the cities of aurora ma

2198
01:34:54,310 --> 01:34:52,000
uh these are very difficult yes they are

2199
01:34:58,229 --> 01:34:54,320
you're doing good

2200
01:35:01,109 --> 01:34:58,239
are cities

2201
01:35:01,990 --> 01:35:01,119
that if you are in portuguese you could

2202
01:35:04,310 --> 01:35:02,000
pronounce

2203
01:35:07,350 --> 01:35:04,320
and in the metropolitan area which was

2204
01:35:10,629 --> 01:35:07,360
then in form to the brazilian airspace

2205
01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:10,639
defense command acronyms are given

2206
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:14,560
they are very long on may 12 2020

2207
01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:17,360
the air space control detachment of pico

2208
01:35:21,750 --> 01:35:18,639
de quito

2209
01:35:24,870 --> 01:35:21,760
in petro paulus which i think is an

2210
01:35:27,790 --> 01:35:24,880
area uh suburb in the rio de janeiro

2211
01:35:30,470 --> 01:35:27,800
area detected the increase of

2212
01:35:34,709 --> 01:35:30,480
inexplicable activities in a very

2213
01:35:38,310 --> 01:35:34,719
intense way in the region at about 8 pm

2214
01:35:41,590 --> 01:35:38,320
of that day that same day may 12th

2215
01:35:44,149 --> 01:35:41,600
this now matches up with trigono

2216
01:35:45,430 --> 01:35:44,159
making the correction to me jimmy that

2217
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:45,440
the actual

2218
01:35:51,510 --> 01:35:48,480
night events were may 11th

2219
01:35:53,030 --> 01:35:51,520
going past midnight into may 12th that

2220
01:35:56,390 --> 01:35:53,040
matches up here

2221
01:35:57,590 --> 01:35:56,400
on may 12 2020 the airspace control

2222
01:36:00,950 --> 01:35:57,600
detachment

2223
01:36:03,830 --> 01:36:00,960
of pico de quota and petro paulus

2224
01:36:05,030 --> 01:36:03,840
which is part of rio de janeiro detected

2225
01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:05,040
the increase

2226
01:36:09,669 --> 01:36:07,840
of inexplicable activities in a very

2227
01:36:13,109 --> 01:36:09,679
intense way in the region

2228
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:13,119
at about 8 pm of the same day u.s

2229
01:36:16,149 --> 01:36:15,280
military reported to the brazilian

2230
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:16,159
government

2231
01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:19,679
that an ufo had fallen in a forest

2232
01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:22,800
area in the municipality of maje

2233
01:36:26,470 --> 01:36:25,520
which is across that water from rio de

2234
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:26,480
janeiro

2235
01:36:30,629 --> 01:36:28,800
the united states department of defense

2236
01:36:34,149 --> 01:36:30,639
then ordered general john

2237
01:36:36,070 --> 01:36:34,159
raymond to deploy 20 special forces

2238
01:36:39,830 --> 01:36:36,080
soldiers to that region

2239
01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:39,840
being 10 from the u.s space force

2240
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:43,679
and 10 from the space aggressor

2241
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:46,880
26 squadron commanded by

2242
01:36:54,790 --> 01:36:50,960
captain barnes in the early hours

2243
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:54,800
of may 13 2020 the u.s military

2244
01:36:59,510 --> 01:36:57,360
disembarked at a brazilian military air

2245
01:37:02,629 --> 01:36:59,520
base in the state of sao paulo

2246
01:37:04,709 --> 01:37:02,639
and traveled in fab planes to a military

2247
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:04,719
base in rio de janeiro

2248
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:07,600
the operation was baptized with the code

2249
01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:08,639
name

2250
01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:13,360
organ range that's o-r-g-a-n

2251
01:37:19,109 --> 01:37:17,119
space range r-a-n-g-e

2252
01:37:21,669 --> 01:37:19,119
it is important to note that the

2253
01:37:25,189 --> 01:37:21,679
brazilian military personnel provided

2254
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:25,199
only logistical support the u.s military

2255
01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:25,840
personnel

2256
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:28,159
informed us the visits of these objects

2257
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:29,280
to earth

2258
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:31,360
have been more and more frequent in the

2259
01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:33,119
world

2260
01:37:37,189 --> 01:37:35,199
when the u.s military arrived at the

2261
01:37:41,109 --> 01:37:37,199
place where the object had fallen

2262
01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:41,119
they verified that they there were three

2263
01:37:47,669 --> 01:37:44,400
in quotation marks and capitalized

2264
01:37:51,669 --> 01:37:47,679
intruders in the damaged ship

2265
01:37:52,870 --> 01:37:51,679
then at around 7pm the us military armed

2266
01:37:56,550 --> 01:37:52,880
with advanced

2267
01:37:59,910 --> 01:37:56,560
technological devices unknown to the

2268
01:38:02,590 --> 01:37:59,920
brazilian military intercepted

2269
01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:02,600
and killed a being with humanoid

2270
01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:04,080
characteristics

2271
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:07,600
of approximately six feet six inches

2272
01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:23,590
some of my typing is gone and it says

2273
01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:27,280
in the municipality of g

2274
01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:30,400
u a p i m

2275
01:38:39,149 --> 01:38:34,560
i r i m which is another region

2276
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:39,159
around rio de janeiro near the suberbo

2277
01:38:45,270 --> 01:38:42,000
s-o-b-e-r-b-o river and it gives

2278
01:38:48,629 --> 01:38:45,280
coordinates i was looking at them today

2279
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,639
at this latitude and longitude what is

2280
01:38:54,629 --> 01:38:50,639
interesting is that there is

2281
01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:54,639
a town with farms not too far

2282
01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:56,880
from this latitude and longitude that is

2283
01:39:01,590 --> 01:38:58,080
given and there

2284
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:01,600
also is what appears to be a small body

2285
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:02,560
of water

2286
01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:06,320
there the other two beings were captured

2287
01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:07,840
wounded but alive

2288
01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:11,040
in the region of g u a p

2289
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:14,400
i a c with this idea under

2290
01:39:21,510 --> 01:39:17,440
the c u municipality

2291
01:39:31,030 --> 01:39:21,520
of c a c h

2292
01:39:35,750 --> 01:39:33,430
in the rio de janeiro area and there's

2293
01:39:39,910 --> 01:39:35,760
more latitude longitudes given

2294
01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:39,920
on may 14 2020 the beings along with all

2295
01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:42,800
their displacement devices

2296
01:39:47,669 --> 01:39:45,280
i have no idea jimmy what that means

2297
01:39:51,030 --> 01:39:47,679
displacement devices

2298
01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:51,040
were transported to u.s military bases

2299
01:39:54,070 --> 01:39:53,760
all u.s military personnel have already

2300
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:54,080
left

2301
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:56,639
brazil only brazilian military

2302
01:39:59,430 --> 01:39:58,560
helicopters are now patrolling the

2303
01:40:02,070 --> 01:39:59,440
region

2304
01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:02,080
after this incident there were no new

2305
01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:03,440
significant reports of

2306
01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:05,760
unexplained phenomena sightings in the

2307
01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:06,880
region

2308
01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:09,520
strong arm helping hand serve and

2309
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:10,719
protect

2310
01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:14,000
e period b period

2311
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:17,040
uh i hope in reading this and

2312
01:40:21,270 --> 01:40:20,080
apologize for not being able to do all

2313
01:40:25,510 --> 01:40:21,280
of the portuguese

2314
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:25,520
towns but that what we need to know

2315
01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:28,239
is there anybody out there who actually

2316
01:40:31,189 --> 01:40:28,560
has

2317
01:40:32,790 --> 01:40:31,199
first-hand knowledge who would back up

2318
01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:32,800
this transmission

2319
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:36,239
that the united states uh

2320
01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:39,520
i suppose as the superior

2321
01:40:46,229 --> 01:40:42,560
controlling entity uh

2322
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:46,239
killed one non-human

2323
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:50,080
and took two more and a craft

2324
01:40:53,669 --> 01:40:53,040
and the question would be where and

2325
01:40:56,870 --> 01:40:53,679
would this

2326
01:41:00,390 --> 01:40:56,880
explain why in

2327
01:41:03,189 --> 01:41:00,400
the earlier transmission to me

2328
01:41:04,870 --> 01:41:03,199
from trageno and through the english

2329
01:41:08,470 --> 01:41:04,880
translator

2330
01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:08,480
that we had the agria name

2331
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:10,800
as being the operation and that

2332
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:11,760
translates as

2333
01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:14,800
eagle and the eagle is associated

2334
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:19,360
must with the united states so jimmy i

2335
01:41:25,510 --> 01:41:22,560
i'm puzzled by this

2336
01:41:26,950 --> 01:41:25,520
and i would love to know more and i

2337
01:41:31,550 --> 01:41:26,960
wonder too

2338
01:41:34,310 --> 01:41:31,560
have you ever seen that phrase

2339
01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:34,320
displacement devices you're talking

2340
01:41:38,310 --> 01:41:35,040
about

2341
01:41:40,709 --> 01:41:38,320
et technology yeah yeah it caught my eye

2342
01:41:42,629 --> 01:41:40,719
completely and it's uh and again the

2343
01:41:45,830 --> 01:41:42,639
line says this it says on

2344
01:41:48,070 --> 01:41:45,840
on may 14 2020 the beings along with all

2345
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:48,080
of their displacement devices were

2346
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:51,280
transported to u.s military bases

2347
01:41:55,030 --> 01:41:54,000
it's it's a very direct thing to say

2348
01:41:57,910 --> 01:41:55,040
right it's it

2349
01:41:59,189 --> 01:41:57,920
it means something but there are three

2350
01:42:02,070 --> 01:41:59,199
or four

2351
01:42:04,070 --> 01:42:02,080
and a half feet tall humanoid

2352
01:42:06,149 --> 01:42:04,080
characteristics but not human

2353
01:42:07,189 --> 01:42:06,159
and there are three or four specific

2354
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:07,199
dates here

2355
01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:11,040
that uh that are easy now to go back

2356
01:42:16,229 --> 01:42:14,480
and and research and and get people to

2357
01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:16,239
uh come forward with information and

2358
01:42:21,430 --> 01:42:19,280
that is april 20th 2020

2359
01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:21,440
uh where it says that the united states

2360
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:23,520
detected strong presence of unexplained

2361
01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:25,440
aerial phenomena activities

2362
01:42:29,189 --> 01:42:27,280
in some states of brazil that's on april

2363
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:29,199
20th april 21st

2364
01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:31,360
2020 united states department of defense

2365
01:42:36,550 --> 01:42:33,280
following international protocol

2366
01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:36,560
determined by nato advised the brazilian

2367
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:38,080
military defense

2368
01:42:42,070 --> 01:42:40,080
uh that something is going on so we have

2369
01:42:46,149 --> 01:42:42,080
those two specific dates and then

2370
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,159
may 1st may 1st the radars of the first

2371
01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:48,400
integrated air traffic and air defense

2372
01:42:52,790 --> 01:42:49,280
center

2373
01:42:55,350 --> 01:42:52,800
syndaca 1 by the way which is again an

2374
01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:55,360
acronym that is specifically pointed out

2375
01:42:59,669 --> 01:42:57,760
here detected strong activity from

2376
01:43:00,629 --> 01:42:59,679
unknown aerial phenomena in rio de

2377
01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:00,639
janeiro

2378
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:04,159
so these are three specific dates

2379
01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:07,679
pointing out data that was collected

2380
01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:09,199
and i think that's very important here

2381
01:43:12,229 --> 01:43:11,920
that allows it it isn't ambiguous linda

2382
01:43:18,229 --> 01:43:12,239
it

2383
01:43:19,350 --> 01:43:18,239
and that's why i wonder who is this

2384
01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:19,360
person

2385
01:43:26,629 --> 01:43:24,080
who signs at e period b period

2386
01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:26,639
the implication is they are in the

2387
01:43:31,669 --> 01:43:27,600
military

2388
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:31,679
knowledge because that's what he says

2389
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:34,800
i'm a military at the armed forces which

2390
01:43:38,390 --> 01:43:36,560
is a peculiar sentence

2391
01:43:39,669 --> 01:43:38,400
it is not the way an american would

2392
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:39,679
speak so i

2393
01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:43,199
and the i have the emailer it is a

2394
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:46,080
highly unusual name but i'm not uh

2395
01:43:52,070 --> 01:43:48,400
giving that out at this point

2396
01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:52,080
and i also the dates that are

2397
01:43:59,189 --> 01:43:55,360
important because it was trageno

2398
01:44:02,550 --> 01:43:59,199
paiva uh down in the rio de janeiro

2399
01:44:04,870 --> 01:44:02,560
area who contacted me back on the 14th

2400
01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:04,880
who corrected the dates that he had been

2401
01:44:09,669 --> 01:44:06,159
given for

2402
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:09,679
the video with the police sirens and

2403
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:12,719
the 18 objects in the sky

2404
01:44:19,109 --> 01:44:16,000
as may 11th to may

2405
01:44:22,550 --> 01:44:19,119
12th going past midnight and

2406
01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:22,560
here is may 12th in this list

2407
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:26,480
now uh and uh i'll open up the phone

2408
01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:28,000
lines after this linda do you want to

2409
01:44:31,430 --> 01:44:28,800
stay with us

2410
01:44:32,550 --> 01:44:31,440
or do you have work to go and do i'll

2411
01:44:34,709 --> 01:44:32,560
understand if

2412
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:34,719
you can't do over time this is important

2413
01:44:38,229 --> 01:44:36,400
okay then you're gonna stay with us

2414
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:38,239
to hear what the comments would be and

2415
01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:40,000
we'll be what we'd be on for another

2416
01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:40,639
half hour

2417
01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:43,600
yeah yeah 25 minutes but there it there

2418
01:44:51,350 --> 01:44:44,159
is

2419
01:44:55,430 --> 01:44:51,360
through uh linda and i just love it

2420
01:44:57,910 --> 01:44:55,440
that these two specific gps coordinates

2421
01:45:00,470 --> 01:44:57,920
were included in this again this is an

2422
01:45:01,990 --> 01:45:00,480
ambiguous stuff and left to open to

2423
01:45:05,189 --> 01:45:02,000
interpretation and

2424
01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:05,199
and and things no it is very direct with

2425
01:45:07,590 --> 01:45:05,600
uh

2426
01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:07,600
all of the police all of the air traffic

2427
01:45:12,310 --> 01:45:09,679
control the military

2428
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:12,320
uh of the united states their commanders

2429
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:13,920
are named here

2430
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:16,800
how many people it's it's a it's a very

2431
01:45:21,430 --> 01:45:18,400
very comprehensive

2432
01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:21,440
layout of what possibly went down there

2433
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:24,480
it's it's impressive this letter

2434
01:45:30,470 --> 01:45:27,600
it does echo the

2435
01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:30,480
because remember this is totally

2436
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:32,480
separate the letter came to you and me

2437
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:34,320
today it's totally separate from all of

2438
01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:35,920
the other stuff that was happening from

2439
01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:38,719
may 14th on with me with trageno

2440
01:45:44,709 --> 01:45:42,080
and it's trageno who sent me the

2441
01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:44,719
what was allegedly the hacked they

2442
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:45,600
called it

2443
01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:49,360
hacked military radio communication

2444
01:45:56,149 --> 01:45:52,400
and i have all of it that he sent and

2445
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:56,159
it and i read those line items from that

2446
01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:57,679
radio communication

2447
01:46:01,669 --> 01:46:00,719
and it echoes what's in this letter as

2448
01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:01,679
well

2449
01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:05,199
the bodies the craft the military

2450
01:46:10,629 --> 01:46:08,400
uh they're worrying about uh that they

2451
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:10,639
can't go down a certain road

2452
01:46:13,669 --> 01:46:13,280
they're gonna have to have camouflage

2453
01:46:19,270 --> 01:46:13,679
that

2454
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:19,280
everything has to be protected and

2455
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:21,440
covered remember that's what i went

2456
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:23,119
through

2457
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:26,400
and the videos were amazing to watch and

2458
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:29,920
the thing is it wasn't one you know i

2459
01:46:34,070 --> 01:46:32,320
i personally just like you linda i don't

2460
01:46:36,790 --> 01:46:34,080
know how many videos were out there

2461
01:46:37,270 --> 01:46:36,800
but i personally watched dozens and i

2462
01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:37,280
know

2463
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:38,880
i've heard reports that there were

2464
01:46:43,590 --> 01:46:40,719
hundreds uh that were

2465
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:43,600
up that were all pulled down uh

2466
01:46:49,109 --> 01:46:45,679
something definitely happened

2467
01:46:51,270 --> 01:46:49,119
it did you i if you haven't seen it i'll

2468
01:46:54,070 --> 01:46:51,280
go ahead and forward you

2469
01:46:56,310 --> 01:46:54,080
uh the video that was sent to me of this

2470
01:46:58,709 --> 01:46:56,320
object crashing into the mountain

2471
01:46:59,669 --> 01:46:58,719
and it looks like a meteor you know like

2472
01:47:02,790 --> 01:46:59,679
your typical

2473
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:02,800
space debris thing breaking up and and i

2474
01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:04,000
dismissed it

2475
01:47:11,350 --> 01:47:07,040
right i was just like wow and nothing i

2476
01:47:15,910 --> 01:47:11,360
remember lincoln lapaz in 1947

2477
01:47:19,149 --> 01:47:15,920
48 49 50 and that was the investigation

2478
01:47:22,229 --> 01:47:19,159
of the kelly greene quote

2479
01:47:22,950 --> 01:47:22,239
meteorites close quote that lincoln

2480
01:47:26,229 --> 01:47:22,960
lapaz

2481
01:47:26,550 --> 01:47:26,239
himself a highly respected scientist who

2482
01:47:29,750 --> 01:47:26,560
was

2483
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:29,760
an expert in meteors he

2484
01:47:37,350 --> 01:47:33,920
saw a green kelly meteorite

2485
01:47:40,310 --> 01:47:37,360
change from a straight line

2486
01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:40,320
and came to the conclusion that whatever

2487
01:47:44,550 --> 01:47:40,800
the

2488
01:47:46,950 --> 01:47:44,560
so-called green meteorites were

2489
01:47:49,189 --> 01:47:46,960
they were intelligently controlled

2490
01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:49,199
that's lincoln la paz

2491
01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:51,840
it is a part of the history uh in the

2492
01:47:56,629 --> 01:47:53,199
united states

2493
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:56,639
about what was being researched by a

2494
01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:58,480
real scientist and then

2495
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:01,440
it was like nobody wanted the public to

2496
01:48:04,709 --> 01:48:03,600
understand that lincoln la paz came to

2497
01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:04,719
the conclusion

2498
01:48:10,629 --> 01:48:07,920
that these green fireballs were not just

2499
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:10,639
astronomical bodies now uh let's go

2500
01:48:13,990 --> 01:48:12,400
ahead and take a break right here this

2501
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:14,000
is fade to black we're going to go into

2502
01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:15,840
some overtime with linda moulton howe i

2503
01:48:19,030 --> 01:48:18,400
will open up the phone lines as we

2504
01:48:22,310 --> 01:48:19,040
discuss

2505
01:48:25,350 --> 01:48:22,320
further this may uh

2506
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:25,360
somebody said uh braswell instead of

2507
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:26,080
brazil

2508
01:48:29,590 --> 01:48:29,280
it's her it's roswell linda you stay

2509
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:29,600
right

2510
01:48:33,669 --> 01:48:32,320
that's good that's great and we'll be

2511
01:48:48,149 --> 01:48:33,679
right back and we'll take your phone

2512
01:48:51,350 --> 01:48:49,830
welcome back fade to black i'm yours

2513
01:48:53,030 --> 01:48:51,360
jimmy church i guess tonight linda

2514
01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:53,040
moulton howe

2515
01:48:56,709 --> 01:48:55,280
she never stops she's going into

2516
01:48:58,229 --> 01:48:56,719
overtime with us right now we're

2517
01:49:01,270 --> 01:48:58,239
discussing

2518
01:49:04,870 --> 01:49:01,280
the maje brazil ufo

2519
01:49:06,629 --> 01:49:04,880
uh story that is it's going down now

2520
01:49:09,590 --> 01:49:06,639
right now in real time

2521
01:49:09,990 --> 01:49:09,600
and uh linda before we get to the calls

2522
01:49:12,470 --> 01:49:10,000
um

2523
01:49:13,589 --> 01:49:12,480
one of the things that i did and i

2524
01:49:16,390 --> 01:49:13,599
normally don't

2525
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:16,400
have the time to go and do this kind of

2526
01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:17,040
thing but

2527
01:49:21,589 --> 01:49:20,639
i started to go and click on some of

2528
01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:21,599
these things

2529
01:49:24,629 --> 01:49:23,679
that were there and i was finding them

2530
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:24,639
deleted and

2531
01:49:28,390 --> 01:49:27,040
removed i was like holy crap these

2532
01:49:31,830 --> 01:49:28,400
reports are actually

2533
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:31,840
real that these these videos

2534
01:49:35,109 --> 01:49:33,280
some of the stuff on twitter some of the

2535
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:35,119
stuff in reddit uh

2536
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:38,560
facebook the the reports that were

2537
01:49:42,629 --> 01:49:39,360
coming out

2538
01:49:43,910 --> 01:49:42,639
were getting deleted off of social media

2539
01:49:45,430 --> 01:49:43,920
were you finding the same thing

2540
01:49:48,709 --> 01:49:45,440
happening to you

2541
01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:48,719
yeah in fact when progeno called me

2542
01:49:55,189 --> 01:49:52,159
on may 14th he said

2543
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:55,199
i'm going to be sending you

2544
01:49:58,870 --> 01:49:58,159
links and he said get them down on your

2545
01:50:01,750 --> 01:49:58,880
desktop

2546
01:50:03,030 --> 01:50:01,760
as fast as possible because they're

2547
01:50:05,669 --> 01:50:03,040
being taken down

2548
01:50:06,629 --> 01:50:05,679
from youtube and any place that they are

2549
01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:06,639
appearing

2550
01:50:10,709 --> 01:50:09,520
and one of the best is the 50 seconds

2551
01:50:13,430 --> 01:50:10,719
that i

2552
01:50:15,270 --> 01:50:13,440
showed last night on my earth files

2553
01:50:18,550 --> 01:50:15,280
youtube broadcast

2554
01:50:21,589 --> 01:50:18,560
and that was uh in a

2555
01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:21,599
video that i got down onto my desktop

2556
01:50:25,510 --> 01:50:24,159
as soon as triggano had called me on the

2557
01:50:28,629 --> 01:50:25,520
14th

2558
01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:28,639
it was gone by that night

2559
01:50:32,629 --> 01:50:30,880
uh absolutely yeah yeah yeah yeah this

2560
01:50:33,350 --> 01:50:32,639
stuff was really happening to me too as

2561
01:50:36,550 --> 01:50:33,360
well and

2562
01:50:38,070 --> 01:50:36,560
and uh the first thing that you don't

2563
01:50:41,030 --> 01:50:38,080
want to do

2564
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:41,040
if you want to uh have a story go away

2565
01:50:45,030 --> 01:50:41,760
is

2566
01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:45,040
you just you don't delete it all you're

2567
01:50:48,950 --> 01:50:46,880
going to do is raise suspicions i don't

2568
01:50:51,350 --> 01:50:48,960
understand that process of it it was

2569
01:50:52,149 --> 01:50:51,360
pretty interesting uh let's uh let's go

2570
01:50:53,750 --> 01:50:52,159
to the calls

2571
01:50:56,950 --> 01:50:53,760
hi you're live on fade to black say hi

2572
01:50:59,430 --> 01:50:56,960
to luna moulton how who's calling

2573
01:51:00,470 --> 01:50:59,440
hi hey jimmy how you doing hey how you

2574
01:51:03,510 --> 01:51:00,480
doing

2575
01:51:08,229 --> 01:51:03,520
hi where are you hey

2576
01:51:12,149 --> 01:51:11,109
he's one of them yeah he's one of those

2577
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:12,159
great truckers

2578
01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:15,199
in the united states that is making sure

2579
01:51:18,790 --> 01:51:17,040
that uh we stay alive thank you for

2580
01:51:20,470 --> 01:51:18,800
everything that you do jt

2581
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:20,480
uh what's your question for linda about

2582
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:22,320
brazil

2583
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:26,000
uh just uh the tone of the voices i mean

2584
01:51:31,510 --> 01:51:28,639
those people were so

2585
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:31,520
intense you know about it and stuff like

2586
01:51:34,310 --> 01:51:32,320
that i mean i

2587
01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:34,320
haven't seen a lot of videos on it you

2588
01:51:38,229 --> 01:51:36,320
know i sleep a lot during the day and

2589
01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:38,239
all that we're driving at night here but

2590
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:41,679
anyway i mean it's just crazy

2591
01:51:48,310 --> 01:51:44,800
how they you know they did that

2592
01:51:50,790 --> 01:51:48,320
i mean wow just wondering how she

2593
01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:50,800
well i think jimmy made the point that

2594
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:51,440
there are

2595
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:54,639
too many disparate videos uh

2596
01:52:01,910 --> 01:51:58,320
that we don't always know who

2597
01:52:04,229 --> 01:52:01,920
uh where the time all the things that we

2598
01:52:05,750 --> 01:52:04,239
should know as journalists but if it's

2599
01:52:08,870 --> 01:52:05,760
not provided

2600
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:08,880
what we can look at is the variety

2601
01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:12,159
and there definitely is i think that

2602
01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:14,880
50-second piece where the sirens are

2603
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:16,320
going and

2604
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:20,320
the 18 objects are moving in the sky

2605
01:52:23,430 --> 01:52:22,639
i understand that people are throwing

2606
01:52:26,950 --> 01:52:23,440
out the

2607
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:26,960
accusation it must be drones and i have

2608
01:52:30,790 --> 01:52:27,760
been looking

2609
01:52:33,750 --> 01:52:30,800
at professional drone videos

2610
01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:33,760
where you can have a controller within

2611
01:52:38,550 --> 01:52:35,040
two miles

2612
01:52:41,830 --> 01:52:38,560
of drones and you can do shows

2613
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:41,840
when i watch the shows i'm talking about

2614
01:52:46,550 --> 01:52:43,440
these videos that are showing

2615
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:46,560
what drones can do glowing

2616
01:52:52,950 --> 01:52:49,679
and moving in the sky and doing patterns

2617
01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:52,960
when i uh look at what is being done

2618
01:52:56,950 --> 01:52:54,880
professionally with drones and then i go

2619
01:52:59,990 --> 01:52:56,960
back to that 50-second

2620
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:00,000
video uh in which the 18

2621
01:53:06,149 --> 01:53:04,080
are very liquid it's very uh

2622
01:53:07,990 --> 01:53:06,159
what do you want to call it there there

2623
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:08,000
is something about the motion

2624
01:53:11,750 --> 01:53:10,960
of those 18 objects and the way they

2625
01:53:15,350 --> 01:53:11,760
move

2626
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:15,360
that seems very much more fluid

2627
01:53:18,950 --> 01:53:18,159
than what when you look at what drones

2628
01:53:22,149 --> 01:53:18,960
are doing

2629
01:53:25,350 --> 01:53:22,159
in say in at a county fair

2630
01:53:27,510 --> 01:53:25,360
they're more stilted they they're more

2631
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:27,520
in square patterns do you know what i

2632
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:28,480
mean jimmy

2633
01:53:36,229 --> 01:53:32,960
i do yeah i saw that that majes

2634
01:53:38,229 --> 01:53:36,239
is much more organic somehow and

2635
01:53:39,510 --> 01:53:38,239
uh even though we don't understand and

2636
01:53:43,109 --> 01:53:39,520
we did

2637
01:53:46,870 --> 01:53:43,119
to me i said to tergino why

2638
01:53:49,990 --> 01:53:46,880
do we not have the eyewitnesses

2639
01:53:52,950 --> 01:53:50,000
of the uh cell phones

2640
01:53:54,149 --> 01:53:52,960
on somebody's recording doing an

2641
01:53:56,950 --> 01:53:54,159
interview

2642
01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:56,960
and i don't know what has happened in

2643
01:54:01,589 --> 01:53:58,320
the whole context

2644
01:54:05,350 --> 01:54:01,599
of majes for a month but it

2645
01:54:08,229 --> 01:54:05,360
seems as if the lack of having people

2646
01:54:11,750 --> 01:54:08,239
standing with their face and their name

2647
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:11,760
suggests that people were afraid to go

2648
01:54:16,229 --> 01:54:13,280
on the record

2649
01:54:17,750 --> 01:54:16,239
and the the panic in some of the videos

2650
01:54:19,830 --> 01:54:17,760
and and some of them were in

2651
01:54:20,830 --> 01:54:19,840
english some of them are in portuguese i

2652
01:54:24,229 --> 01:54:20,840
don't understand what's

2653
01:54:25,830 --> 01:54:24,239
uh being said there but i could hear the

2654
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:25,840
back and forth and i can hear the people

2655
01:54:30,310 --> 01:54:27,280
in the background

2656
01:54:31,830 --> 01:54:30,320
that were absolutely terrified because

2657
01:54:35,189 --> 01:54:31,840
they were watching this go

2658
01:54:36,709 --> 01:54:35,199
down in real time uh above their city it

2659
01:54:38,950 --> 01:54:36,719
was fascinating

2660
01:54:40,149 --> 01:54:38,960
fascinating viewing for sure let's go

2661
01:54:42,870 --> 01:54:40,159
let's go back to the phones hi you're

2662
01:54:44,950 --> 01:54:42,880
live on fade to black who's calling

2663
01:54:46,790 --> 01:54:44,960
hey this is mike from savannah georgia

2664
01:54:49,189 --> 01:54:46,800
hey mike say hi to linda moulton how

2665
01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:49,199
what's your question about brazil

2666
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:51,280
hey linda hey jimmy hey my question is

2667
01:54:54,950 --> 01:54:52,480
when you're reading those

2668
01:54:58,229 --> 01:54:54,960
transmissions you mentioned an american

2669
01:55:01,990 --> 01:55:00,070
hello are you there yeah yeah no i was

2670
01:55:03,510 --> 01:55:02,000
just wondering

2671
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:03,520
okay yeah hold on she read the

2672
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:05,599
transmission it said take the

2673
01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:06,960
take the items to the american

2674
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:12,470
yeah yeah hold on for a second what's

2675
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:15,920
that linda it's alcantara the american

2676
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:16,719
corporation

2677
01:55:23,109 --> 01:55:19,840
listed in the hacked military radio was

2678
01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:23,119
a l c a n

2679
01:55:28,709 --> 01:55:26,480
t a r a i haven't looked that

2680
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:28,719
up i go ahead and talk and i'll look it

2681
01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:30,320
up right now

2682
01:55:34,629 --> 01:55:32,800
well what uh what what i what i also

2683
01:55:37,669 --> 01:55:34,639
found interesting

2684
01:55:40,390 --> 01:55:37,679
is that i believe and i i

2685
01:55:40,790 --> 01:55:40,400
posted this let me let me actually go

2686
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:40,800
back

2687
01:55:47,510 --> 01:55:44,320
here for a second um i posted

2688
01:55:50,629 --> 01:55:47,520
the the death of

2689
01:55:53,189 --> 01:55:50,639
uh the colonel that was ahead of the

2690
01:55:53,910 --> 01:55:53,199
space force and he died in colorado last

2691
01:55:58,070 --> 01:55:53,920
week

2692
01:56:01,589 --> 01:55:58,080
and his name was um

2693
01:56:04,870 --> 01:56:01,599
thomas fowle zarano

2694
01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:04,880
and i went back and the listing of the

2695
01:56:09,669 --> 01:56:05,920
two guys

2696
01:56:11,350 --> 01:56:09,679
uh from uh and i'm looking it up here

2697
01:56:14,070 --> 01:56:11,360
you just have to be patient this

2698
01:56:14,709 --> 01:56:14,080
this email that linda and i got is is

2699
01:56:17,910 --> 01:56:14,719
pretty

2700
01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:17,920
long um but they list the

2701
01:56:24,709 --> 01:56:21,440
two the two guys from

2702
01:56:27,270 --> 01:56:24,719
the united states oh yeah uh

2703
01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:27,280
then ordered general john raymond to

2704
01:56:31,830 --> 01:56:28,719
deploy

2705
01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:31,840
um captain

2706
01:56:39,589 --> 01:56:36,480
barnes was the space aggressor 26th

2707
01:56:42,709 --> 01:56:39,599
squadron commanded by captain barnes

2708
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:42,719
and i think there was a second name here

2709
01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:43,840
too as well

2710
01:56:50,790 --> 01:56:47,679
and i wondered if if it was connected to

2711
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:50,800
uh linda the death of of

2712
01:56:58,470 --> 01:56:54,239
falzorano which happened on may 13th

2713
01:57:01,350 --> 01:56:58,480
in colorado springs yeah

2714
01:57:01,910 --> 01:57:01,360
yeah i see what you're bringing up i'm

2715
01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:01,920
also

2716
01:57:10,950 --> 01:57:06,000
amazed that i've looked up the alcantara

2717
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:10,960
group steadfast for mindanao

2718
01:57:17,990 --> 01:57:14,400
founded in the mid 50s was born

2719
01:57:21,990 --> 01:57:18,000
out to tap mindanao's

2720
01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:22,000
vast and undeveloped resources

2721
01:57:28,589 --> 01:57:25,119
in the philippines okay so that's

2722
01:57:32,310 --> 01:57:28,599
one alcantara group it has an

2723
01:57:35,430 --> 01:57:32,320
incredibly beautiful website

2724
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:35,440
it's really amazing actually so now if

2725
01:57:39,589 --> 01:57:36,400
you go back

2726
01:57:40,790 --> 01:57:39,599
that was alcantara group steadfast for

2727
01:57:43,589 --> 01:57:40,800
mindanao

2728
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:43,599
philippines now there's another one

2729
01:57:48,550 --> 01:57:45,280
support companies

2730
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:48,560
acr mining corporation

2731
01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:52,560
established in 1962 alcantara

2732
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:55,599
group and

2733
01:58:03,510 --> 01:57:59,679
it seems to self-reference back

2734
01:58:07,910 --> 01:58:03,520
to the alcantara group with mindanao

2735
01:58:11,669 --> 01:58:07,920
so now we're talking about mining

2736
01:58:15,109 --> 01:58:11,679
we're talking about major corporate work

2737
01:58:18,830 --> 01:58:15,119
that this uh second to the last

2738
01:58:21,669 --> 01:58:18,840
line in the hacked military radio

2739
01:58:24,790 --> 01:58:21,679
communication base one

2740
01:58:27,109 --> 01:58:24,800
the american corporation from alcantara

2741
01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:27,119
is going to the base position and will

2742
01:58:31,109 --> 01:58:28,320
retrieve

2743
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:31,119
the objects that you copy what would be

2744
01:58:36,310 --> 01:58:32,880
better for retrieving

2745
01:58:40,070 --> 01:58:36,320
than a large mining corporation

2746
01:58:42,709 --> 01:58:40,080
now was it alcantara where the

2747
01:58:43,510 --> 01:58:42,719
uh the cars were outside of the gate and

2748
01:58:46,310 --> 01:58:43,520
you can hear

2749
01:58:46,790 --> 01:58:46,320
what sounds like either artillery fire

2750
01:58:49,510 --> 01:58:46,800
you know

2751
01:58:50,390 --> 01:58:49,520
big gunshots that are going on

2752
01:58:54,550 --> 01:58:50,400
implication

2753
01:58:57,109 --> 01:58:54,560
i saw that too

2754
01:58:57,990 --> 01:58:57,119
with all the the smoke and asked for

2755
01:59:01,990 --> 01:58:58,000
geno

2756
01:59:03,030 --> 01:59:02,000
can you find out can you get anybody who

2757
01:59:07,030 --> 01:59:03,040
can even go

2758
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:07,040
there and ask as what was this about

2759
01:59:11,270 --> 01:59:10,080
show them the cell phone and nobody had

2760
01:59:15,030 --> 01:59:11,280
done that yet

2761
01:59:18,470 --> 01:59:15,040
but the implication is that this

2762
01:59:20,470 --> 01:59:18,480
corporation alcantara is where they were

2763
01:59:23,669 --> 01:59:20,480
taking the retrieved object or

2764
01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:23,679
using it to get it there and who knows

2765
01:59:27,830 --> 01:59:24,960
what all of those

2766
01:59:30,229 --> 01:59:27,840
uh booming sounds were about yeah yeah

2767
01:59:32,149 --> 01:59:30,239
caller what was your name

2768
01:59:33,990 --> 01:59:32,159
mike hey mike thank you for the phone

2769
01:59:35,030 --> 01:59:34,000
call man and enjoy the rest of your

2770
01:59:38,390 --> 01:59:35,040
night and weekend

2771
01:59:41,750 --> 01:59:38,400
go back lee tapping you also you got it

2772
01:59:45,189 --> 01:59:41,760
you got to go back late and uh yeah

2773
01:59:48,390 --> 01:59:45,199
linda crazy and uh before i

2774
01:59:52,070 --> 01:59:48,400
uh get back to the next caller

2775
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:52,080
uh here do you think that it's possible

2776
01:59:55,030 --> 01:59:52,800
linda that

2777
01:59:57,270 --> 01:59:55,040
with the data that has been presented

2778
01:59:58,310 --> 01:59:57,280
not only the video evidence eyewitness

2779
02:00:01,990 --> 01:59:58,320
testimony

2780
02:00:05,830 --> 02:00:02,000
these letters the radio uh transmissions

2781
02:00:07,270 --> 02:00:05,840
that were uh transcribed

2782
02:00:09,589 --> 02:00:07,280
do you think that this is enough

2783
02:00:11,189 --> 02:00:09,599
information for us to start to unravel

2784
02:00:12,790 --> 02:00:11,199
this and maybe get

2785
02:00:14,470 --> 02:00:12,800
somebody from brazil or the united

2786
02:00:16,870 --> 02:00:14,480
states government to come out and talk

2787
02:00:20,149 --> 02:00:16,880
about it

2788
02:00:22,709 --> 02:00:20,159
well i think that we need

2789
02:00:23,350 --> 02:00:22,719
somebody who was there and actually

2790
02:00:26,390 --> 02:00:23,360
witnessed

2791
02:00:27,430 --> 02:00:26,400
and can prove it who is willing to talk

2792
02:00:30,709 --> 02:00:27,440
with us

2793
02:00:32,070 --> 02:00:30,719
show us their video that they are the

2794
02:00:35,350 --> 02:00:32,080
ones who took it

2795
02:00:38,709 --> 02:00:35,360
and that they go on the record as being

2796
02:00:41,990 --> 02:00:38,719
at least an eyewitness at what time

2797
02:00:45,430 --> 02:00:42,000
what date where were they in majay

2798
02:00:47,430 --> 02:00:45,440
what was the scuttlebutt on the street

2799
02:00:48,870 --> 02:00:47,440
because we haven't gotten that from

2800
02:00:51,430 --> 02:00:48,880
anybody anywhere

2801
02:00:52,149 --> 02:00:51,440
that is another weird part of this story

2802
02:00:55,589 --> 02:00:52,159
there is

2803
02:00:58,629 --> 02:00:55,599
no active eyewitness interview

2804
02:01:00,070 --> 02:00:58,639
like for news yeah very interesting

2805
02:01:02,229 --> 02:01:00,080
that's a very interesting part about

2806
02:01:05,430 --> 02:01:02,239
this and the

2807
02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:05,440
uh the media coverage on this which i've

2808
02:01:09,510 --> 02:01:07,199
read as much as i can

2809
02:01:11,030 --> 02:01:09,520
but we're talking about and this is the

2810
02:01:14,149 --> 02:01:11,040
media reporting this

2811
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:14,159
thousands of witnesses right not a

2812
02:01:17,990 --> 02:01:14,639
couple

2813
02:01:20,629 --> 02:01:18,000
jimmy out doing a sky

2814
02:01:21,510 --> 02:01:20,639
watch right it's not it's not uh two

2815
02:01:24,709 --> 02:01:21,520
people

2816
02:01:27,750 --> 02:01:24,719
uh out on a fishing trip in in a swamp

2817
02:01:30,950 --> 02:01:27,760
it is uh taken place

2818
02:01:33,910 --> 02:01:30,960
uh over uh this town majes

2819
02:01:35,030 --> 02:01:33,920
rio de janeiro and thousands of

2820
02:01:37,350 --> 02:01:35,040
witnesses and

2821
02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:37,360
lots and lots of video that has been

2822
02:01:40,629 --> 02:01:38,239
presented

2823
02:01:41,990 --> 02:01:40,639
uh absolutely incredible and and i agree

2824
02:01:44,229 --> 02:01:42,000
with everybody linda

2825
02:01:45,910 --> 02:01:44,239
this is our opportunity to get out in

2826
02:01:49,270 --> 02:01:45,920
front of this before

2827
02:01:50,149 --> 02:01:49,280
the cover-up takes its hold and and what

2828
02:01:53,510 --> 02:01:50,159
we need

2829
02:01:56,870 --> 02:01:53,520
are people willing to stand up be

2830
02:01:57,990 --> 02:01:56,880
honest have some sort of evidentiary

2831
02:02:00,149 --> 02:01:58,000
material

2832
02:02:01,669 --> 02:02:00,159
and be willing to help us who would like

2833
02:02:04,550 --> 02:02:01,679
to report the facts

2834
02:02:06,149 --> 02:02:04,560
and the truth if there were literally

2835
02:02:09,589 --> 02:02:06,159
thousands of witnesses

2836
02:02:12,790 --> 02:02:09,599
why do we not have a single one

2837
02:02:14,709 --> 02:02:12,800
recorded in a news interview

2838
02:02:16,310 --> 02:02:14,719
let's uh go to the next caller hi you're

2839
02:02:19,030 --> 02:02:16,320
live on fade to black say hi to linda

2840
02:02:20,790 --> 02:02:19,040
moulton how who's calling

2841
02:02:22,149 --> 02:02:20,800
louise andrew i'm calling from miami

2842
02:02:24,229 --> 02:02:22,159
florida how are you doing linda

2843
02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:24,239
jamie how are you today yeah it's good

2844
02:02:28,149 --> 02:02:25,440
to hear your voice

2845
02:02:29,750 --> 02:02:28,159
what's your question about brazil it's

2846
02:02:30,470 --> 02:02:29,760
actually it's not a question it's

2847
02:02:33,350 --> 02:02:30,480
actually a

2848
02:02:35,030 --> 02:02:33,360
um i don't know if that helps but the

2849
02:02:39,030 --> 02:02:35,040
state of um

2850
02:02:41,910 --> 02:02:39,040
industry the state of amapa minas gerais

2851
02:02:43,109 --> 02:02:41,920
sao paulo huge nato all those estates

2852
02:02:47,109 --> 02:02:43,119
lined up

2853
02:02:48,790 --> 02:02:47,119
going from north to south so

2854
02:02:50,870 --> 02:02:48,800
she actually mentioned that these

2855
02:02:51,910 --> 02:02:50,880
objects were traveling in a straight

2856
02:02:57,910 --> 02:02:51,920
line

2857
02:02:59,270 --> 02:02:57,920
from south to north i don't know if that

2858
02:03:02,310 --> 02:02:59,280
information helps

2859
02:03:05,510 --> 02:03:02,320
but uh seems like if it is

2860
02:03:07,750 --> 02:03:05,520
are you from brazil yes sir

2861
02:03:08,790 --> 02:03:07,760
i'm from brazil and and have you talked

2862
02:03:12,629 --> 02:03:08,800
to any

2863
02:03:15,669 --> 02:03:12,639
anybody from brazil no in fact

2864
02:03:17,510 --> 02:03:15,679
no media coverage from the main media in

2865
02:03:19,430 --> 02:03:17,520
brazil i have seen this

2866
02:03:21,910 --> 02:03:19,440
uh northern journal in fact it's

2867
02:03:26,149 --> 02:03:21,920
actually surprising to me that actually

2868
02:03:29,270 --> 02:03:27,589
but yeah i just wanted to give you that

2869
02:03:30,470 --> 02:03:29,280
piece of information all those four

2870
02:03:32,790 --> 02:03:30,480
states lined up

2871
02:03:34,550 --> 02:03:32,800
from north to south oh thank you for

2872
02:03:36,709 --> 02:03:34,560
that and what was your name again i'm

2873
02:03:39,510 --> 02:03:36,719
sorry i didn't catch it

2874
02:03:41,109 --> 02:03:39,520
andre in fact i sent you 14 pages of

2875
02:03:43,189 --> 02:03:41,119
calculations between

2876
02:03:45,430 --> 02:03:43,199
quantum mechanics and uh general

2877
02:03:47,270 --> 02:03:45,440
relativity as

2878
02:03:49,189 --> 02:03:47,280
i talked to you a tweet about two years

2879
02:03:51,430 --> 02:03:49,199
ago

2880
02:03:52,470 --> 02:03:51,440
i remember everything yeah i remember

2881
02:03:54,870 --> 02:03:52,480
everything andre

2882
02:03:58,229 --> 02:03:54,880
[Laughter]

2883
02:04:03,350 --> 02:04:00,709
yeah i studied physics you know and i

2884
02:04:05,669 --> 02:04:03,360
sent you those 14 pages of calculations

2885
02:04:07,109 --> 02:04:05,679
being a while ago but i just wanted to

2886
02:04:08,790 --> 02:04:07,119
give you that piece of information i

2887
02:04:11,030 --> 02:04:08,800
don't know if you

2888
02:04:12,069 --> 02:04:11,040
if that helps or not yeah i appreciate

2889
02:04:15,589 --> 02:04:12,079
that andre

2890
02:04:17,589 --> 02:04:15,599
seriously and actually uh this phone

2891
02:04:20,709 --> 02:04:17,599
call is more important than you think

2892
02:04:23,189 --> 02:04:20,719
uh but do me a favor andre resend me

2893
02:04:23,750 --> 02:04:23,199
all of that physics material will you do

2894
02:04:28,790 --> 02:04:23,760
that

2895
02:04:33,189 --> 02:04:28,800
oh i'll try my best

2896
02:04:35,189 --> 02:04:33,199
i got a lot of it i okay andre

2897
02:04:36,629 --> 02:04:35,199
thank you thank you enjoy the rest of

2898
02:04:39,270 --> 02:04:36,639
your night and your weekend

2899
02:04:40,790 --> 02:04:39,280
and go back lee tappy you're back late

2900
02:04:43,990 --> 02:04:40,800
happy pleasure to talk to you sir

2901
02:04:46,149 --> 02:04:44,000
yeah thank you uh linda what he said i

2902
02:04:47,589 --> 02:04:46,159
i don't even think he realizes how

2903
02:04:50,709 --> 02:04:47,599
important uh

2904
02:04:53,910 --> 02:04:52,950
yeah no that yeah of course no i'm

2905
02:04:56,950 --> 02:04:53,920
talking about

2906
02:04:59,589 --> 02:04:56,960
the media not reporting this

2907
02:05:00,629 --> 02:04:59,599
yes yeah that was making uh the point

2908
02:05:03,030 --> 02:05:00,639
that i was

2909
02:05:04,550 --> 02:05:03,040
just saying before he came on the line

2910
02:05:07,830 --> 02:05:04,560
exactly that

2911
02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:07,840
there has been no recorded interviews

2912
02:05:11,109 --> 02:05:10,480
it doesn't make sense unless there has

2913
02:05:15,510 --> 02:05:11,119
been a

2914
02:05:18,470 --> 02:05:15,520
clampdown on the media in rio de janeiro

2915
02:05:20,629 --> 02:05:18,480
because otherwise everything that is

2916
02:05:23,109 --> 02:05:20,639
circulating around this story

2917
02:05:24,790 --> 02:05:23,119
there would have been phone calls to

2918
02:05:26,629 --> 02:05:24,800
their tv stations

2919
02:05:28,470 --> 02:05:26,639
and there would have been efforts to go

2920
02:05:31,750 --> 02:05:28,480
out if there have been a thousand

2921
02:05:34,470 --> 02:05:31,760
witnesses why are we not

2922
02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:34,480
getting people on the record with their

2923
02:05:37,990 --> 02:05:35,360
names

2924
02:05:40,310 --> 02:05:38,000
with their iphones talking about

2925
02:05:43,990 --> 02:05:40,320
everything that occurred

2926
02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:44,000
the silence around this to me

2927
02:05:48,310 --> 02:05:47,520
is like one of those indirect pieces of

2928
02:05:51,589 --> 02:05:48,320
evidence that

2929
02:05:54,709 --> 02:05:51,599
somebody is trying to shut this down

2930
02:05:56,310 --> 02:05:54,719
and i hope that tonight that there are

2931
02:05:59,589 --> 02:05:56,320
people listening who may

2932
02:06:02,310 --> 02:05:59,599
actually have hard evidence hard

2933
02:06:03,030 --> 02:06:02,320
military insight into this letter that

2934
02:06:08,229 --> 02:06:03,040
jimmy

2935
02:06:11,669 --> 02:06:08,239
who are not afraid

2936
02:06:12,950 --> 02:06:11,679
and who can get us as much information

2937
02:06:16,229 --> 02:06:12,960
as possible

2938
02:06:18,069 --> 02:06:16,239
that is based on fact and evidence

2939
02:06:19,430 --> 02:06:18,079
and that if there are people who are

2940
02:06:23,030 --> 02:06:19,440
going to hear about

2941
02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:23,040
this uh show tonight that are in rio de

2942
02:06:28,229 --> 02:06:24,560
janeiro or mujhay

2943
02:06:30,950 --> 02:06:28,239
or that surrounding area if they can get

2944
02:06:34,709 --> 02:06:30,960
in touch with us through email

2945
02:06:35,189 --> 02:06:34,719
with me through protonmail uh protonmail

2946
02:06:39,229 --> 02:06:35,199
is

2947
02:06:42,830 --> 02:06:39,239
encrypted that we need

2948
02:06:45,669 --> 02:06:42,840
firsthand provable

2949
02:06:48,870 --> 02:06:45,679
witnesses evidence

2950
02:06:52,390 --> 02:06:48,880
uh iphones that the person who

2951
02:06:53,270 --> 02:06:52,400
took the video can prove the iphone and

2952
02:06:55,750 --> 02:06:53,280
the video

2953
02:06:57,189 --> 02:06:55,760
is theirs that's another part that we've

2954
02:07:00,470 --> 02:06:57,199
got to go through

2955
02:07:02,790 --> 02:07:00,480
and then there's another step that i do

2956
02:07:03,669 --> 02:07:02,800
i work with some people who are

2957
02:07:06,950 --> 02:07:03,679
professional

2958
02:07:09,990 --> 02:07:06,960
analyzers of video and images

2959
02:07:12,310 --> 02:07:10,000
and if a video holds up and it hasn't

2960
02:07:12,870 --> 02:07:12,320
been edited and it hasn't been chopped

2961
02:07:16,709 --> 02:07:12,880
up

2962
02:07:20,229 --> 02:07:16,719
and it is raw iphone and it shows

2963
02:07:21,270 --> 02:07:20,239
whatever we have had an insight about

2964
02:07:23,910 --> 02:07:21,280
the lights

2965
02:07:24,790 --> 02:07:23,920
moving in patterns some people are

2966
02:07:28,229 --> 02:07:24,800
attacking no

2967
02:07:29,510 --> 02:07:28,239
it must be organized drones are there

2968
02:07:32,550 --> 02:07:29,520
cell phone

2969
02:07:36,069 --> 02:07:32,560
images out there that would have

2970
02:07:41,669 --> 02:07:36,079
anything to do with military

2971
02:07:48,709 --> 02:07:45,430
to the company that may be

2972
02:07:51,910 --> 02:07:48,719
an american corporation associated with

2973
02:07:53,350 --> 02:07:51,920
alcantara and that is the question that

2974
02:07:56,950 --> 02:07:53,360
jimmy and i have

2975
02:08:00,550 --> 02:07:56,960
are those explosions the white smoke

2976
02:08:03,910 --> 02:08:00,560
is that an alcantara office or

2977
02:08:08,390 --> 02:08:03,920
alcantara or is it military we

2978
02:08:11,270 --> 02:08:08,400
need help with the details the video uh

2979
02:08:12,950 --> 02:08:11,280
that shows this object crashing into the

2980
02:08:14,950 --> 02:08:12,960
side of the mountain it lights up the

2981
02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:14,960
mountain it's it's crazy

2982
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:18,480
that is not a drone that that

2983
02:08:23,430 --> 02:08:21,599
is clearly something coming in

2984
02:08:25,030 --> 02:08:23,440
and and breaking apart and crashing into

2985
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:25,040
the mountain i got time for

2986
02:08:31,589 --> 02:08:27,920
one more phone call hi you're live i'm

2987
02:08:38,870 --> 02:08:36,149
you're live three oh oh that's my bad

2988
02:08:41,030 --> 02:08:38,880
that's my bad that's my bad i almost

2989
02:08:42,709 --> 02:08:41,040
hung up

2990
02:08:45,910 --> 02:08:42,719
okay hi you're live i'm fade to block

2991
02:08:53,030 --> 02:08:49,990
three hello yes you're live

2992
02:08:56,470 --> 02:08:53,040
you're live right now

2993
02:09:00,390 --> 02:08:56,480
okay are you there yes hello this is ria

2994
02:09:03,350 --> 02:09:00,400
hi ria say hi to linda hi ria hi linda

2995
02:09:04,069 --> 02:09:03,360
holy cow i can't believe i made it on

2996
02:09:06,709 --> 02:09:04,079
yes you did

2997
02:09:08,069 --> 02:09:06,719
riya really quick before we end you're

2998
02:09:09,910 --> 02:09:08,079
our last call of the show what's your

2999
02:09:12,870 --> 02:09:09,920
question for linda

3000
02:09:14,229 --> 02:09:12,880
okay so i had an experience listening to

3001
02:09:16,709 --> 02:09:14,239
one of your videos

3002
02:09:17,270 --> 02:09:16,719
where my body was taken over and i

3003
02:09:20,709 --> 02:09:17,280
turned

3004
02:09:24,149 --> 02:09:20,719
into a robot my head was flipped

3005
02:09:27,270 --> 02:09:24,159
back and i was tinkered with and it

3006
02:09:28,790 --> 02:09:27,280
sounded like machinery and that happened

3007
02:09:31,830 --> 02:09:28,800
while one of your

3008
02:09:33,430 --> 02:09:31,840
antarctica videos was on the air running

3009
02:09:34,069 --> 02:09:33,440
in the background i was already in a

3010
02:09:37,270 --> 02:09:34,079
channel

3011
02:09:40,069 --> 02:09:37,280
do you have a life missing that time

3012
02:09:40,790 --> 02:09:40,079
and uh heard of anything that's like

3013
02:09:43,510 --> 02:09:40,800
that before

3014
02:09:44,470 --> 02:09:43,520
yeah i'm sorry about that ria linda i

3015
02:09:46,550 --> 02:09:44,480
had a question

3016
02:09:48,470 --> 02:09:46,560
about did you have any missing time

3017
02:09:49,910 --> 02:09:48,480
linda i don't think she can hear she had

3018
02:09:53,030 --> 02:09:49,920
missing

3019
02:09:55,350 --> 02:09:53,040
i consider yourself actually um

3020
02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:55,360
so i did not miss time it was a very

3021
02:09:59,270 --> 02:09:57,119
fast experience

3022
02:10:00,790 --> 02:09:59,280
i experienced myself turning into this

3023
02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:00,800
other form

3024
02:10:04,470 --> 02:10:03,520
but i was also still myself freaking out

3025
02:10:07,830 --> 02:10:04,480
for being taken

3026
02:10:11,030 --> 02:10:07,840
over and i started to almost choke

3027
02:10:13,589 --> 02:10:11,040
on having my head flipped back as i

3028
02:10:15,589 --> 02:10:13,599
fought with them i heard one of them say

3029
02:10:19,270 --> 02:10:15,599
oh my god she's awake

3030
02:10:23,189 --> 02:10:21,669
i'll just say really fast it could be a

3031
02:10:25,430 --> 02:10:23,199
symbol it could be a number

3032
02:10:27,270 --> 02:10:25,440
of something that was triggered inside

3033
02:10:27,990 --> 02:10:27,280
of you that does happen with people in

3034
02:10:32,069 --> 02:10:28,000
the abduction

3035
02:10:35,189 --> 02:10:32,079
syndrome yeah and uh the

3036
02:10:38,550 --> 02:10:35,199
the when this happens

3037
02:10:41,990 --> 02:10:38,560
it's triggered right and and

3038
02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:42,000
and something was brought out uh because

3039
02:10:46,149 --> 02:10:44,560
of what she was listening with you

3040
02:10:47,589 --> 02:10:46,159
that's all it was just triggered at that

3041
02:10:50,470 --> 02:10:47,599
moment that there was something

3042
02:10:51,510 --> 02:10:50,480
in the my documentary that she's seeing

3043
02:10:53,430 --> 02:10:51,520
it could be a symbol

3044
02:10:54,709 --> 02:10:53,440
it could be a shape it could be

3045
02:10:58,470 --> 02:10:54,719
something that

3046
02:11:01,510 --> 02:10:58,480
triggers uh an in uh something implanted

3047
02:11:02,790 --> 02:11:01,520
not necessarily physical and mentally

3048
02:11:05,589 --> 02:11:02,800
implanted

3049
02:11:06,550 --> 02:11:05,599
by other intelligences on a previous

3050
02:11:09,350 --> 02:11:06,560
abduction

3051
02:11:10,069 --> 02:11:09,360
and then people will be triggered it can

3052
02:11:12,629 --> 02:11:10,079
be a light

3053
02:11:13,990 --> 02:11:12,639
it can be an image it can be a number it

3054
02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:14,000
can be a symbol

3055
02:11:19,030 --> 02:11:17,119
and then they leave

3056
02:11:20,390 --> 02:11:19,040
their consciousness their immediate

3057
02:11:23,910 --> 02:11:20,400
surroundings

3058
02:11:25,189 --> 02:11:23,920
and the issue is why why do the other

3059
02:11:28,149 --> 02:11:25,199
intelligences

3060
02:11:28,629 --> 02:11:28,159
leave these trigger points in some

3061
02:11:30,790 --> 02:11:28,639
people

3062
02:11:33,109 --> 02:11:30,800
certainly not all but a few and she

3063
02:11:35,189 --> 02:11:33,119
sounds like that could be that category

3064
02:11:37,589 --> 02:11:35,199
yeah and uh andrea thank you for the

3065
02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:37,599
phone call enjoy your weekend and go

3066
02:11:40,709 --> 02:11:39,040
back lee tappy

3067
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:40,719
and she said one other thing linda

3068
02:11:45,189 --> 02:11:42,719
before i let you go uh

3069
02:11:46,629 --> 02:11:45,199
she said that she had heard them say

3070
02:11:48,470 --> 02:11:46,639
she's awake

3071
02:11:49,750 --> 02:11:48,480
right yeah which means it was physical

3072
02:11:51,910 --> 02:11:49,760
i've had uh

3073
02:11:53,430 --> 02:11:51,920
maybe in my career i've interviewed

3074
02:11:55,510 --> 02:11:53,440
about 1600 people

3075
02:11:57,669 --> 02:11:55,520
in the abduction syndrome and there will

3076
02:12:00,229 --> 02:11:57,679
be maybe half a dozen

3077
02:12:01,830 --> 02:12:00,239
that that is one of the things that

3078
02:12:04,629 --> 02:12:01,840
people will recall

3079
02:12:05,350 --> 02:12:04,639
is that they get it telepathically she

3080
02:12:07,990 --> 02:12:05,360
or he

3081
02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:08,000
is awake that comes into their head

3082
02:12:10,229 --> 02:12:08,560
linda

3083
02:12:12,149 --> 02:12:10,239
thank you so much what a great

3084
02:12:13,350 --> 02:12:12,159
conversation tonight and it's always so

3085
02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:13,360
much fun when you're on

3086
02:12:16,629 --> 02:12:15,679
on with us really quick before we say

3087
02:12:19,510 --> 02:12:16,639
good night

3088
02:12:21,990 --> 02:12:19,520
uh uh where can everybody go and and

3089
02:12:25,270 --> 02:12:22,000
hang out with you on your live stream

3090
02:12:30,470 --> 02:12:25,280
oh thank you i come to

3091
02:12:32,550 --> 02:12:30,480
earth files it's www.earthfiles.com

3092
02:12:34,390 --> 02:12:32,560
always think of a reporter who files

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news about the earth

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and when you are on my news page

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at www.earthbiles.com

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at the top is a photograph of me with my

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cats

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chocolate and fluffy that i bring with

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me at the beginning of each

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wednesday night live stream earth files

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youtube broadcast

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we keep growing we've gone through the

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141 000 mark

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now i'm headed to hundred and fifty

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thousand jimmy

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you'll have to join us when we get there

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and we're gonna do a champagne party

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around the world with everybody raising

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their glasses

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to earth files and my

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i guess persistence to wanting to be

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able to report the truth the real truth

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the whole truth about our past our

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present and our future

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and thank you jimmy because you're

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working on the same goal

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yeah thank you linda champagne live

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stream linda

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youtube i'm there okay i'll talk to you

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all right

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have a great night and be safe out there

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and enjoy your weekend

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yes and down with covet everybody and

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wear masks

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linda

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at jimmychurchradio.com with that

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we just went pulled a poll with linda

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molten howe and i've got to get out of

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here and get these credits rolled

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thank you so much linda fade to black's

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executive producer

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is rita kamarian sure the show is

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produced by hill j paul renee dennis and

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02:14:12,229 --> 02:14:10,400
kevin

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announcers are steve harter jean patel

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and mark d cover webmaster drew the geek

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music doug

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aldridge intro spaceboy

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spaceboymusic.com

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fade to black is produced by kjcr for

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the game changer network and syndication

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is kgra

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02:14:28,629 --> 02:14:26,560
the planet it's broadcast only

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02:14:29,910 --> 02:14:28,639
copyrighted 2020 by paid to black in the

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02:14:31,750 --> 02:14:29,920
game changing network

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02:14:33,189 --> 02:14:31,760
it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

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copied or used anywhere in the known

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universe

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without written permission from paid to

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black or the game changer network

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i'm your host jimmy church i hope

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everybody has an amazing night

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02:14:45,830 --> 02:14:44,560
and a great safe fun weekend we'll see

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you on monday

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go back lee tappy

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[Applause]